Tiverton Town Council Makes School Buildings Sale Discussion Public

After keeping the details of the bidding process on the Nonquit and Ranger schools in closed executive session, the Tiverton Town Council will invite public comment on the three bids received at the Aug. 14 council meeting.

Tiverton residents are  invited to weigh in on the sale of the Nonquit and Walter Ranger schools at the next Town Council meeting, according to town officials.

Up until now bid amounts and who cast those bids has been kept behind closed doors in executive session. The decision to seal the bids was a strategic one on part of the town and its real estate broker, , intended to encourage higher bids.

"Generally with the public buildings like this the sealed bid is the best," Jeff Brooks of Hogan & Associates told Patch during an interview in June. "Everyone would submit (bids) with an expectation so the bids will  be the highest and best right out of the gate." 

According to Town Manager James Goncalo, the decision to move the discussion into the public forum was not prompted by the criticism by residents, but rather a natural progression after bidding closed on July 23. The first round of bidding, which ended on June 15, garnered a single bid for the Ranger School.

"We are now taking it into open session and soliciting discussion and input from the public on Aug. 14," said Goncalo. "The [bid] closing was on June 15 and we only received one bid for the Ranger School so with Nonquit having no bids we extended it... to July 23. We indicated that a 5297599ny bids received by the 23rd of July will be the bids that we have."

Since the town will not be soliciting additional bids, it's time for bids to enter the public sector.

The bid extension paid off, as the Nonquit School received two bids on the final day of solicitation, said Goncalo.

The Bids:

  • Walter Ranger School: located at 1185 Stafford Road.
  • A single bid for $25,750 was received for the Ranger School by Property Assessors, LLC, naming John A. Pagliarini as the principal.

According to Goncalo, Property Assossors intends to raze the 22,000 square- foot-building.

Patch reported in June that the Ranger School's assessed value for the entire property and building is $1,056,000. The bid was received on June 15.

  • Nonquit School: located at 117 Puncateest Neck Road.

- The Nonquit Center, a nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving local heritage and culture, offered $40,000 for the property.

The Nonquit Center, which is currently operating under the name Tiverton Four Corners Center for Arts and Education, woud turn the building into a gathering space where local heritage, environment, arts and agriculture would be celebrated.

Even if the center achieved federal 501c3 status, Goncalo said Tiverton taxpayers would not be penalized because the nonprofit designation would not exempt the organization from paying property taxes.

"There would be no negative impact on the town," said Goncalo.

- A second offer for $51,000 on the Nonquit School is by a Little Compton resident, Dr. Denise Fleurant, of 552 West Main Road.

According to an offer to purchase memo, Fleurant intends to create a mixed-use facility that would combine a single-family residence with a senior country daycare/cognitive rehabilitation center.

The Nonquit School's assesed value is $1,072,000, according to Hogan & Associates. Both bids for the Nonquit School were received on July 23.

Joe Sousa. August 02, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Fake names fake arguments . Just because a company goes bankrupt shouldn't mean we won't do business with them . Reorganizing debt is common place ,and it strengthens the business . It allowing them to remain open, and meet their obligations . It's quite clear none of the anonymous poster have ever ran a business or had to make a pay role . Being the most Businesses unfriendly state in the union it is common place . With the closure of the Sakonnet bridge, and a failing economy, it's no wonder they have had problems . They lost all of the sales of construction material to the Island and beyond . They are still one of the largest tax payers in Tiverton and employ local workers. I will be supporting this project because Tiverton needs investors who are willing to develop these tracts of land with some thing other than house lots and condo's . This investment takes nothing in return as far as town services. Not from the school, fire ,or police . The real reason the anonymous posters don't like the developer is because he made a contribution to the TCC. In America we have a system where you support the candidates you like. It sounds like more sour grapes because certain candidates got beat in the last election. Maybe if you weren't flaming liberal NIMBY'S you would get some support.
Tea Party Shill August 02, 2012 at 10:33 PM
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Joe Sousa. August 02, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Powerful Forces I know you posted under all those names making pretend you were me. I just don't see why you still bring it up.
Tom August 02, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Joe, as a candidate for Town Council, will you pledge to recuse yourself from voting on a project if the project is with a political contributor? You want to run for Town Council and this is a important question to answer.
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 12:00 AM
I'm not taking any contributions . I didn't in the last election. I don't want to deal with campaign finance reports. I go out and talk with people . I get an ear full quite often . People are mad about high taxes and want the increases to stop . They understand a lot of it is out of our control. They are happy with our police and fire but many complain about the schools. Some don't vote because they think it does no good. That one really gets me wondering. Many feel if we increase our tax base it will help with the tax situation . I hear stories about missed opportunities and bad deals. It's been a learning experience.
Jim L August 03, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Who's tom? is he a voter? does he give or get money from a PAC? Is he in fact a town resident?Does he hold that Ms Crist should answer the question asked of her, why does the subject matter change from first question after Ms crist made her implacations, If she has proof of what she said let her bring it forth, why do the unnamed on her jump up in her defence and try to turn the question around, I have dealt with EVERY, member of the town council by e-mail at one time or another, they know i don't hide behind a hidden name i believe that they think i'm trying to do my best for ALL of tiverton not just a certain faction, but moving toward a balance point, and you bozo's just continue the anti TCC drum beat! NEXT is this the real jim l or not, i realy don't care, it's me i'm real, i refuse to just sit here and surrender to hidden names living in the past AND i don't see ANY of the no names saying one dam word about the bridge tolls, something that will effect our town for years to come, so bring on your name calling topic switching nonsence, you couldn't stop the FTR and you will not stop citizens trying to make a better and balanced town
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 12:08 AM
We now who you are Jim. Tiverton is a better town because we have volunteers like you . God Bless You my friend
Jim L August 03, 2012 at 12:12 AM
good for you Joe, might get my vote might not; but i will say this straight out, last year we were told that if the schools didn't get X amount of money then all after school stuff would end, a school would be closed, what's coming down the pike this year? i'm worried about that, and yet there are folks on here saying hold onto the schools, don't sell so n so into the indy park, tha idea got us to this point like everyone else in this town my taxes go up every year why?
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 12:14 AM
I am utterly shocked. Aside from this site, in the 4 yrars I have lived here, I have heard people complain about just about everything in this town, but not the schools. The roads, the non-stop lighting up of certain residential areas.. but the schools? not once. We have top notch schools here in Tiverton. Ft. Barton was ranked the #1 elementary school in the state. What is there REALLY to complain about? with the last teacher contract, our teachers dropped into the bottom 3rd in compensation in the state. They pay more towards their healthcare than any other district. At the end of the day, the only thing to really complain about in this town is the complete financial mismanagement that has gone one, apparently, for several town councils, this one included. And the school system isn't all peaches and cream in the financial management area either. THAT is what needs fixing. the stupidity of non-stop lawsuits costing the town tens of thousands of dollars each time. The petty bickering over pennies, the infighting, the lack of real transparency. Not the police, not the fire, not even really the road department or the dump or the schools or any of it. It is the council, the infighting, and the complete lack of trust of our elected officials.
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 12:17 AM
all of Tiverton includes those of us with children in the schools, too, you know. With those of us who frequent the library, the playground and everything else to do with children. the children are citizens of Tiverton too.
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Dan It's not the level of education . It's more about the cost per student and the School Committee's contracts. I have my own beliefs. I was just stating what I hear.
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 12:31 AM
what is the cost per student for Tiverton, Joe?
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 12:36 AM
If I remember right on average about fourteen thousand per student.
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 12:41 AM
no answer? I will tell you, Tiverton, for the 2009-2010 school year had a cost per student rate of 14,444 - the statewide average was 15,014 - Tiverton's cost is 570 less than the state average.... Little Comptons cost per student was 21,180. Newport, 19,855 for comparison sake. Portsmouth and Middletown were both just above 13,000. Block Island, which has the lowest tax rate in the state was at 35,000 per student. all that info is readily available to anyone who cares to look it up on here: http://infoworks.ride.ri.gov/state/ri Of the 39 towns in RI, only 16 of them had a lower per student rate than the state average, Tiverton was one of them.
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 12:46 AM
So I was close. Did I pass the test Dan, or do you have more questions for me.
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 01:09 AM
the "test" is that you complained about the high cost per student, but Tiverton is in the bottom 1/3 of the state in cost per student. 7000 less then our neighbor Little Compton. I had heard people talk about closing the high school and shipping them to another district, but as we can see, that does not lower costs. Little Compton would probably be better served by building their own high school... Our schools rank near the top in the state without spending the same as other top systems, like SK at 18k per year, or Narragansett at 19k per year. so, obviously, Tiverton's costs are not as high as everyone claims they are. in fact, they are quite low when compared to other systems with similar great results. What I am waiting for here is for you to say "wow that is awesome, I didnt know we spent so little and got so much" - yes, the schools are a big cost. They are a big cost for any town. The fact remains that we are getting the more bang for our buck than any other system in the state.
Joe Sousa. August 03, 2012 at 01:11 AM
Maybe you should try reading my post again .You fail the test F-
Dan D August 03, 2012 at 01:21 AM
you got a scanner? I see what appears to be smoke coming from Ft Barton woods. Just called the fire department to let em know.
Ryanthegirl August 03, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Thanks JimL, No big deal. As a town I think reality can be harsh but it is what it is. I love this town and love raising my family here. My husband's family has been in Tiverton since the Mayflower and they still live in the same house! If we could have accountability and complete transparency we could be the town everyone wants to move to or live in.
Ryanthegirl August 03, 2012 at 01:55 AM
Thanks Oldandtired, I agree. The town needs to think more like the buyer, who will carry the overall cost to improve the site. The value is the land only.
Just Another Taxpayer August 03, 2012 at 12:09 PM
Jim L, you stated "how do i not know your an nea rep just clinging to your unoin job there faceless". So now that you have accused Tom of being part of the "union" I can only imagine that at some point in time you will accuse him of being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. It's too bad you can't defend your position with facts. Instead you resort to attacking people who you disagree with. This is typical TCC/Far Right behavior.
Jim L August 03, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Just another taxpayer, how does the public knoe your not an NEA rep either, you talk about the TCC and me all the time, and all i see from you are attacks on me, never any questions answered, just saying i have to credablity etc, etc I may have made mistakes but i'm still standing, with my real name, so attack me personally all you want. The TCC i like most of what they have done, doesn't mean i will vote for them all again, doesn't mean i won't either, What do you have against Muslims, NOw back to the Main qustion which you guys have once again tried to change the subject on , Ms Crist, just what proof did you have about shady deals and such?
Gloria Crist August 05, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Mr. Nelson- I will not cower to your "veiled threats". You clearly have issues with people-mostly women- who point out your inability to speak the truth.My issue was/is with the simple fact that as a leader a term I use in quotes with you and also as head of an organization who has done nothing but further divide this town in the name of "lower taxes"-whatever that means-you have done nothing to lead.It is common,documented knowledge you and other members of the council accepted a proposal from Felise-when that proposal and Mr. Felise were brought into question you and the other members "cowered" away from the deal.Our town was spared. I can use any adjective I like to describe how I personally feel the dealings were/are...especially when Felise has donated MONEY to YOUR organization, the TCC. Anyone with a sense of justice and democracy would call this "questionable". As a taxpayer and as someone who has a vested interest in the well being of Tiverton- of community- I have a right to QUESTION your intentions as well as those of the TCC/Town Council members with the buildings and where that money is going.Now, if you want to talk proof and providing information: In this election year-and your demand for TRANSPARENCY- perhaps, after a year, you are ready to provide proof in your ACLU lawsuit against community members? Allegations of private meetings you take with other TCC/Town Council members that concern PUBLIC information or that little thing called "rolling quorum"??
Just Another Taxpayer August 06, 2012 at 12:22 PM
Jim L, I am not a member on NEA, I am not a member of the Communist Party, nor am I a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. I am a resident that cares about Tiverton. I don't like the way the TCC has tried to divide this town. Jim L, I will make a deal with you. If you stop labeling and attacking any poster who is critical of the TCC, then I will agree to stop telling the truth about them. PS. Ms Crist did respond.
Jim L August 06, 2012 at 01:08 PM
Jat , If you cared about Tiverton you wouldn't paint everything with such a broad brush, I don't label people, i don't call thenm KINg or robbie or lord lair , any of the words you and your ilk use on here Why don't you try telling the whole truth, it goes like this THe town council got involved in school spending, that didn't work out, now you can say that the budget commitee did that, but if the budget commitee had come in with a budget much higher than the towns budget then it would have lost the town council finally fixed the dump closing, something no council before would touch, this council has done more in the Indy park than anyone inyears, I think over all this TOWN council( you know won the election) has a low B high C rateing while you and others would have the voters think the deserve nothing but F's So i will continue to try to tell the truth unlike you who tells the truth as you see it, Oh i saw Ms Christ responded, But she didn't answer the question did she? Not one word about the tolls from you or ms crist have i seen, something which will effect this town and your kids kids for years, why nothing from the unknowns on here about that??
Just Another Taxpayer August 06, 2012 at 01:18 PM
Jim L, I guess I will have to keep telling the truth about the TCC. By the way, I did know that you have become a pollster. This Council will receive their final grade on Novermber 6, 2012. PS I have already said the tolls are a bad idea.
Jim L August 06, 2012 at 01:59 PM
Who's Mitt Is he running for council , school commitee? budget?
Jim L August 06, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Well i might be insufficiently sensitive to others feelings i'm not insenitive to the hurting the new tolls will put on all off us in tiverton, and i'm sorry but if you can't see the increase in traffic, the wear n tear on the roads, the hidden tax increase for school busses, and the rise in price in the cost of goods for Newport County, the tourist NOT going to 4 corners. then i don't think you have your eyes open, i may not agree with some folks on here, but each and ever one of us, and our families will be hurt by these tolls for a long long time, join up please. If tolls are built then sonner or later your gonna braek down and buy a transponder because with others avoiding the tolls Fish rd and main rd is going to be a circus, take those cars cutting around the tolls, and in the schools busses, a few tractor trailers and it will all be wonderfull
Dan D August 06, 2012 at 03:16 PM
how would cars cut around the tolls? the toll would be AFTER the Main Rd onramp, not between Fish and Main. So really, all the tolls would do to our roads is add traffic for people who decide to avoid the tolls and tourism in Newport and stop in and tour Tiverton.
Jim L August 06, 2012 at 03:32 PM
The plan right now is between fish rd exit and adamsvill exit, so if you from fall river or and of those towns or anyother place in ri you would get off at harbour mall and take fish road leaving the island you could take fish road, main rd,exit and bypass the tolls, it's that easy, and I believe many will do it, just great for our roads and traffic and you are still going to see an increase in prices, shipping costs will raise and you know who will pay for that, any sports tean from the high school going to play an opposesing team will be subject to the toll, this whole idea was not thought out or studied, and should be stopped cold by the state till the effects on businees and families is studied, not just slapped down on Newport county because upstate says so


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