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State Sponsored Piracy

The State of Rhode Island is bleeding to death from self inflicted wounds. The General Assembly has decided rather than correct the problem with a tourniquet it will attempt to slow the bleeding by opening a new wound.

The General Assembly has backed itself into a corner…again, and is trying to fight its way out. They look at 40,000 cars crossing the Sakonnet Bridge every day and see nothing but $$$$. Having gone to the voters for bond money to obtain the required RI 20% matching funds to qualify for the 80% Federal funds each year for decades the now $50,000,000 Department of Transportation debt eats a rather large hole in its $90,000,000 budget. So, the Governor and General Assembly are looking offshore to Aquidneck Island and have fashioned a revenue enhancement scheme on the Somali piracy model.

Shaking down local and out-of-state commuters for maintenance dollars for the Sakonnet and Jamestown Bridges, subsidizing the Newport and Mt. Hope bridges (so the Newport Bridge toll does not have to be increased) and paying for maintenance of all other roads and bridges in the East Bay is highway piracy.  To follow this up with using East Bay gas tax dollars to bolster bridge and road maintenance funding in the West Bay is pure plunder.

The toll is rapacious, and a grave threat to the regional economy and jobs.

The General Assembly’s irresponsible and reckless spending habit has crippled RI infrastructure under a mountain of debt.  Their solution is; Soak area commuters, locally dispersed families, and commercial traffic while starving the East Bay economy.

The Department of Transportation needs more than $200,000,000 every year for the next ten years to complete its backlog of road and bridge maintenance projects across the State. The reason for the funding shortfall is decades of incompetent budgeting of our tax dollars.  Rather than cut spending on all manner of pet “indispensible” programs, our Governor and legislators have stepped “outside the box” and discovered an innovative funding scheme to correct the situation.  Since the gasoline tax revenue collected across the State is insufficient for DOT to complete its mission, a new tax on Newport and Bristol County residents and businesses has been established in the guise of a toll. 

Instead of funding road and bridge maintenance in Newport and Bristol counties with gasoline tax revenue collected for this purpose, these projects will now be funded by a Sakonnet Bridge toll.  This plan allows all gasoline tax revenue, including gasoline tax collected in Newport and Bristol Counties to be dedicated to funding DOT maintenance projects in Providence, Kent and Washington Counties. 

Legislators in the West Bay are elated since they will be enriched with all the East Bay gas tax dollars to pave and repair roads and bridges in their counties. Their support for the plan is not surprising and their constituents will be pleased. That is, until, the shortfall again becomes unwieldy. Only then, when the first RITBA toll booths sprout on highways and bridges in their neighborhoods, will West Bay residents understand the long range benefit of the new taxing authority.

Joe Robicheau
Portsmouth Town Council, President

Ray Berberick

12:57 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Joe: Thank you very much for writing this. As you know, the Portsmouth Business Association is involved in the effort to stop the tolls on the Sakonnet River Bridge. We hosted a breakfast with several state level elected officials and the Director of Transportation. We had a good exchange of information. We are planning a second breakfast. We encourage businesses in Portsmouth who are not members of the PBA to join to give us a stronger voice in our effort. They can contact me at 682-2007 or email me at pbamc02871@cs.com.

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Ray Berberick

1:00 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Secondly, there is an organization called STOP = Sakonnet Tolls Opposition Panel which is an organization made up of representatives from 15 other local organizations throughout the East Bay. This organization is the coordinating group for a number of activities to oppose the tolls. One of the activities is a fundraiser at the Sportsman's Club on October 26th. Members of STOP have been attending RITBA meetings and communicating with DOT and the representatives from the Federal Highway Administration. Any group wishing to assist in our efforts and would like to join STOP may call me at 682-2007.

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Ray Berberick

1:08 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

Thirdly, folks in Tiverton have formed TivertonSTOP. They can be reached at tivertonSTOP@gmail.com. They are highly organized with several subcommittees such as media, information, letter writing, solutions and more. There is a good article on Tiverton Patch about this group. Any individual wishing to join the effort to oppose the tolls may contact them at their email address. Anyone with questions about local efforts to oppose the tolls may call me at 682-2007. Thank you again for writing this piece.

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Jim L

1:09 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

I agree 100% with these guys, i'm just the petition dude but i will say if these new tolls are put in place at any amount, that before you see new tolls if ever places on the West Bay you WILL see a rise in the amount of tolls we were paying, This cannot be allowed at all, just a little bitty toll at all will be like a little pregnant or a little dead call your reps and ask him or her what the hell they were thinking voting for this, IT CANNOT STAND, NO TOLLS

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Chris St Peter

2:01 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

This Article Is Great. I Wish The RIBTA Would Take One Of Those Easy Pass Transponders And Shove It Up Their A.

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Portsmouth Business Association

2:09 pm on Monday, October 22, 2012

S.T.O.P., the Sakonnet Toll Opposition Panel, is holding a fundraiser this Friday, October 26th, at 7pm at the Seaconnet Sportsmans Club, 145 Sakonnet Drive in Portsmouth. Join S.T.O.P, for great food, drink, and music, and the opportunity to meet with local legislators who are working to repeal the plan to place a toll on the SRB. Donation: $20 (only a few trips through the proposed tolls!) For more information contact Jeanne at notolljeanne@cox.net or 401-662-2029.

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George Kassis

9:18 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Mr Robicheau,
You have diagnosed the problem.
What SOLUTION do you propose?
George Kassis

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Jim L

9:35 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Mr Kassis, one answer is to take $2.00 of every car registered and put it directly to the maintance of the Jamestown and Sakonnett river Bridges, let DOT handle the bidding, THey should at least be able to do that, right now NONE of your car payments go to the roads, how much sense does that make?

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Steven

11:36 am on Saturday, October 27, 2012

It would be nice if for once a "solution" came from someone on the GA.....too much to ask though, eh? What's your idea, Mr. George Kassis? The GA is real proficient not only robbing Peter to pay Paul, but also robbing Paul to pay Paul. One potential "solution" would be to overturn the GA come election time. Two others, as Mt Robicheau point out in the article you apparently read, are:
- cut spending on all manner of pet “ indispensable” programs
- fund road and bridge maintenance in Newport and Bristol counties with gasoline tax revenue and not to fund DOT maintenance projects in Providence, Kent and Washington Counties with said revenues.

East side

9:32 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

All of the attempts supposedly for the opposition for the bridge appear to be self serving marketing opportunities for small business. It's a great excuse to all get together, pass out business cards, and discuss nothing. Why nothing? Because these tolls are coming. I have not seen one person or group truly stand above the crowd and market the opposition. S.T.O.P. - what kind of acrynomn is that, totally confusing. As George states above, what solution is there. huge amount of talk, low marketing, lower solutions. My solution - have a toll, the bridge stays up.

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Debora Valente

12:24 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

STOP makes perfect sense. It reflects the feelings of many. Stop the toll from infiltrating the working man and woman of the East Bay and solve the issue by taxing all the Rhode Island Road Usage participants. I love the registration idea with $2 going to the fund, Raise the registration by $2 for all and it will help defray the mismanagement. Stop the bleeding please.

David

11:16 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

While I agree with all that is written, I have to ask why all the fuss? Chaffee told us he was going to raise taxes and impose tolls before he was elected, and he was still elected.

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TAMORI

11:30 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Portsmouth, Tiverton, Bristol, and Middletown did not vote for him. The #1 vote getter in those towns was Robitaille. Check it here - http://www.ri.gov/election/results/2010/general_election/

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David

9:08 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

I love how the patch allows multiple emails to use the same screen name.

Another David!

paul

11:45 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Politicians never consider how much it costs to run toll booths, not to mention building them. Would they be more union positions? Pensions for life? Overtime, traffic backups etc. The cons out weigh the pros. Tolls are a shake down, you got it right Joe! All tolls have people that just drive thru without paying.

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Robert E

12:05 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

How many times does this need to be said there will be no toll booths. Google Open road tolling. No booths no toll takers you just drive over the bridge like you do now and as you pass a sensor reads yor ez pass and if you don't have an ez pass it takes a picture of your plate and the RITBA sends you a bill for the tolll plus a service fee. No booths no stopping no slowing down you just drive and the state empties you pockets as you go by. If they use the same toll schedule as the Newport Bridge the tolls will be .83 for instate with transponder $4.00 out of state with transponder and $10.00 without a transponder. Notice the huge jump if they have to bill you.

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Ted Geisel

9:57 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Robert E, who sends out these bills? Who looks up these license plate numbers? Who goes after these people when they don't pay the bill? Who supports the computer systems for these boothless systems? Sounds like a shell game.

Ray Berberick

11:48 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

From Portsmouth. I will be brief here.

1. DOT/RITBA estimate it would take $12-15 million a year to maintain the four bridges to the island.

2. DOT has been underfunded for decades.

3. The two bridges under RITBA are not eligible for federal funds. Consider moving them to DOT.

4 RI gets roughly $42 million a year in license and tag fees that go to the RI General Fund. Give half of this to DOT to specifically maintain the four bridges.

5. RITBA numbers from their website show annual income of $18 million. $3.1 million goes to salary/benefits of RITBA employees. $2.5 million go to administrative expenses. A course of action would be to give the four bridges to DOT with the $18 million from the Pell Bridge along with some general fund money. The legislators could draft language that these funds must be used to maintain the four bridges.

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Ray Berberick

11:49 am on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

6. Using the old Mass Prop 2-1/2 methodology, and given an $8.8 billion state budget, take 0.5% of the state budget and give it to DOT. That is $44 million.

7. It is my understanding that six state departments were overspent by $32 million last budget cycle. I understand there are unforeseen circumstances. However, we need better accountability at the state level. The status quo needs to be changed. The state government needs to put thrift measures in place instead of creating more taxes, fees and tolls to cover those who go over budget.

8. Is state government completely effective and efficient without any waste? Not likely. It is time to change the status quo. This state could take bold, new measures and be the first to implement new policies to fix this problem in house, make government more frugal, and reduce taxes, fees and tolls on the residents. The legislators that put these measures into place would likely be seen as visionaries and arguably improve their chances at re-election.

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East side

12:23 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Wishful thinking economics. The reality is obvious - the bridge authority running on its own puts money back into the bridges. The RI assortment of budgets do not. So the above (especially #7) outlines what is not reality. I guess i'm even more shocked that this is coming from a person that works in Finance. Just laughable. See you all at the toll booth!!!

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Joseph W. Robicheau

12:38 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Thank you Mr. Berberick. Mr. Kassis asked me to supply the solution. If I had one it would have been included. Thankfully there are talented thinkers like you probably self motivated or maybe by Mr. Kassis, to construct an innovative solution to a complex problem. I have reservations about the political backbone of the legislature do anything remotely akin to your suggested resolution, but your concept needs a much wider audience than we have here. Our local General Assembly members should proudly take this concept to the capital and dare their colleges to improve upon it.

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East side

12:54 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Even Mr. Robicheau is saying the above suggestion is not realistic. To think the most corrupt government in the U.S. is going to support the suggested non sense is why the tolls are coming. Want a solution - pay the toll. The bridges get maintained and stay above water.

Leave RI

12:03 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Not sure of the demographics in the Newport County area so I had a question for the author and/or anyone with knowledge on this..do the commuters coming onto the Newport County area make a greater percentage than commuters leaving the area..?business work etc and I realize there are some of both but curious as to which is greater.

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Ray Berberick

12:14 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

It is hard to pin down an exact number for an answer. The MT Hope Bridge Toll Feasibility Study dated Jan 8th, 2010 on the RITBA website has a lot of analysis and numbers but does not have a specific set of numbers that answers that question directly. Other numbers are available for the Pell Bridge based on work done by Jacobs Engineering for RITBA. There are some older numbers for the MT Hope bridge as well. If you dig deep into the RITBA website, there are several reports that have some data. There is not a lot of new data for the Sakonnet Bridge. DOT/RITBA will be holding meetings in November and December about the toll issue. They are required to have open hearings to meet requirements before putting in tolls. I believe both DOT/RITBA have studies going on now by Jacobs and Commonwealth Engineering to collect data in order to calculate what the toll rates would be. I believe answers to your questions would be presented by DOT/RITBA in these meetings.

Chuck Newton

1:06 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Its seems as if everyone from Bristol or Portsmouth using the Mt. Hope Bridge is quite happy to have those who use the Pell Bridge in Newport pay the bill - or pick up the bill for traveling over the Sakkonet Bridge as well.

But the larger issue is all about state (or local, for that matter) spending. As long as it's hidden, taxpayers don't get too upset. But once a specific tax is tied to a specific service, taxpayers' political acuity gets very good.

Maybe our legislature could require that tax payments to government from service providers be broken out on customer bills. But then we might lose a convenient way for government to continue funding itself. Quietly.

All that being said, my impression is that the RITBA - which operates these bridges - is pretty well run, with few excessive expenses. And it is certainly a lot easier to figure our where the money is going at RITBA than by poring over the state's budgets!

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john harker

2:48 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

$8 billion/1 million residents = $8000 per person in our RI budget (close enough). Somewhere in there we should be able to find a compromise for local residents to pay a discounted toll rate for the shared benefit that islanders receive for access/egress and that which the state receives for allowing practical interstate commerce (taxable reveune) to and fro. J. Harker

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Chuck Newton

3:02 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

RI discounts are in place, and there are options as long as you have EZ-Pass. Here are the discounted rates posted by RITBA on its website:

Resident (RIR)
$.83 per trip
Available to Rhode Island residents only. Must show proof of residency for discount plan to be applied.

Unlimited (RIUNL)
$40.00 every 30 days
Unlimited travel on the Newport/Pell Bridge only. This plan is automatically renewed every 30 days, and is specific to each transponder.

Frequent User (RI6TRIP)
$5.46 for 6 crossings in a 30-day period
This plan is automatically renewed every 30 days or upon the completion of 6 trips in the cycle. Any unused trips will be charged at the end of the cycle.

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john harker

4:18 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

At just under $1.00 per crossing, some might venture that these discounts are not all that exciting to our fellow citizens contending with high frequency use.

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Naome Lixes

5:21 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

"...some might venture that these discounts are not all that exciting to our fellow citizens contending with high frequency use."

Those of us that DON'T use the bridge still pay for it, in that scheme.
Other than it being a regressive tax, why is it bad for the people who use a
service to pay for it? It's subsidized, any way you slice it.

Ask the people in up the Blackstone river valley how they feel about it.

It's an "earned right" when it serves your personal interest - socialism when someone else cashes the check.

Jim L

5:42 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

TOLLS! THIEFS? 875 new signature on the island today, would have been over a thousand if the petition wasn't stolen, can i prove this? NO!! It just happen that 4 stops in Portsmouth and 2 in Middletown, All in a row had them just vanish is an accident, I never pick up the petition without leaving more, NEVER, but 6 stops in a row someone just removed them

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In41time

8:13 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Jim lousy deal having those petitions stolen. Good news is you shouldn't have too much trouble getting 1000 or more to sign tomorrow. "Excuse me ma'am would you be willing to sign a petition opposing a bridge toll?" How many responses do you actually get where they say; "No way! I love paying tolls!" ?

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Brain Mederble

7:25 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Jimbo, it's my understanding that Nelly told you the school super is responsible for not only the tolls but stealing your petition. Did you follow up on this?

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East side

10:28 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

This is terrible. Even though I like the toll and to me it makes economic sense, I don't understand why these petitions were not done via a website?

Jim L

5:44 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Naome lixes, I don't use the Iway? wheres the toll to pay for that?

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In41time

6:59 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Dang I've been driving all the way to Providence over through Fall River and across the Sakonnet River Bridge to Newport just to avoid the Newport Bridge toll. Now what? I know the Mt. Hope!!! Pay more in gax tax or pay Gov. Linc his troll toll. Either way they got you coming and going (literally).

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East side

7:48 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

it would probably be cheaper to simply pay the toll instead of driving all around. The costs include: gas, car maintenance, depreciation. This could be more than the toll.

Jim L

8:48 pm on Tuesday, October 23, 2012

NO TOLL is the only answer!why not place it up on rt 6 going to Chepatcet? I drive it to go to gunshops and Cabelas in Conn, alot they need the Dot and road repairs but they like US are part of RHODE ISLAND, just like us they should not have to pay for the DOT failures, so why are we being asked to? sorry East side toll now Toll for ever DOT breakdown Rise in tolls, Fix the GA save This state, It.s getting down to brass tacks and we are being reated like chumps

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In41time

7:17 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Jim L I don't like tolls either but who does? I hope this toll doesn't happen. Now having said that I'm not getting your whole East Bay vs. West Bay thing you are trying to stir up. This is about a BRIDGE toll so based on your above comment are you suggesting the state put up a toll booth to cross the Scituate Reservoir on Route 6? I'm thinking that when you decide to live on an island you need to pay additional transportation costs to get to and from the island. Shoud the Block Island ferry also be free? Should we build a bridge to Prudence Island and have no toll? I bet if you asked most people that remember the times before the Newport (Pell) bridge if they would rather pay the bridge toll, pay for the ferry to Jamestown, or drive around through Providence to go points south they would say...I'll take the bridge and pay the toll. Good luck in your quest but I'm just saying.

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Robert E

12:15 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

In41time this toll is not just paying for the bridge but for all road and bridge maintence in the east bay dot will no longer be spending any of their budget here. $15 million is to be set aside from the toll to fund road maintence in the east bay.

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Robert E

12:16 pm on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

The state keeps taking our tax money but now we need to self fund our infrastructure.

getreal

6:56 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Chuck, I do not agree with the Newport Bridge Toll either but you do understand the Newport Bridge from the beginning was built with bonds for the RITBA and owned by same. The Sakonnet was federal and state money (from taxes) payed by all of us.

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paul

7:40 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Get real man, we already pay enough taxes and a toll is just another tax.

Jim L

9:31 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Brian , head of CURB?T! thank you for once again nothing at all, Thats why you never own what you say

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Renee Cwiek

10:49 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Seriously Jim. Brian never even posted here. You'll just take any opportunity to have a go at him. So sad.

Jim L

11:08 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Brian Mederble comes straight from CURB?T1 and you just talk of me when he makes stupid remarks about folks stealing petitions and i'm the sad one?Nice try !go back to the Tiverton site will you, I'm, we us everyone but the nameless guys you stand up for are trying to help each other, go attack me on Tiverton Patch, Don't take the time for nameles cowards to attack me on this TOLLS site

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Renee Cwiek

11:13 am on Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Thanks, but I'll post when and wherever I feel like I have something to say. Your hatred of one man blinds you.

Cranky Yankee

11:52 am on Thursday, October 25, 2012

Mr Robicheau, as I have posted previously, I strongly urge you and your counterparts in Tiverton and Little Compton (both Democrat and Republican) to explore the possibility of filing a class-action lawsuit against the State to block the tolls ... on the grounds of unequal taxation; i.e. the citizens of Newport County are the only group in the state being directly taxed for highway improvements.

It is, in fact, a 'taxation without representation' ... we are being taxed simply because we lack sufficient votes in the General Assembly to block such actions. Hypothetically, there is nothing stopping the gangsters in the General Assembly from deciding that Newport County is 'rich'; therefore, we should pay a 10% sales tax while everyone in Central Falls and Woonsocket is underprivileged so they should only pay a 2% tax ... we're talking apples to apples here.

Another example of unequal taxation - the endless saga of the Barrington River bridge. The DOT’s original bid for the work projected a completion date of Sept. 2006 and a price tag of $10.4 million; the bridge didn't open until just a few weeks ago and price rose to $22-23 million. Why is everyone in the state sharing that cost? Why wasn't a tollbooth considered to pay for the Barrington Bridge ... isn't Barrington as 'rich' as we are in Newport County??

The towns of Tiverton, Little Compton and Portsmouth should pool their legal resources and fire a very loud salvo at the General Assembly and the Governor.

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3:59 pm on Thursday, October 25, 2012

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Gene Love

10:28 am on Friday, October 26, 2012

The proposed tolls on the Sakonnet River Bridge will in fact have a Significant Major Impact on our local residence and businesses! State officials are reportedly anticipating the total annual revenue from these tolls will be upwards of $35 million dollars. This is a $35 million dollar Special Tax on the approximately 40,000 local residence who must use this Bridge on a regular basis. Local residence will in fact pay the lions share of these tolls and even if you do not travel over this Bridge frequently you will pay other indirect costs. All of the businesses that provide the goods and services to our area will be hit with substantial additional cost as a result of this toll, which they must pass on to their customers. Commercial vehicles will pay a hefty toll to travel over this Bridge ($20 a trip for a large truck). Literally all of the goods that we purchace are delivered to our area by truck. Many local businesses will be hit with tens of thousands of $ dollars in additional transportation or delivery costs! Simply put, these tolls will cost the average local family between $1500 and $2500 a year and the impact on local businesses will be very substantial due to multiple factors.This proposed toll is unjust and it was with reckless disregard for the wellbeing of our local residence and businesses that the governor proposed this toll during the worst economic conditions since the Great Depression, on a bridge that historically has never had any toll.

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A concerned Citizen

3:37 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012

I agree that maybe a toll on the sakonnett bridge but we should have some tolls on 95. Maybe give certain speed passes to those residents who live in the state to get a large discount or not charge them but for people passing through i think we should have tolls somewhere. Not saying it needs to be forever but for quite a while to help produce some revenue. I remember paying to go over the Mt. Hope bridge and now we don't pay that. Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York and the list goes on of how many states charge tolls. We don't have to be drastic in what is charged maybe anywhere from .50-1.00 but something is better than nothing. Everyone wants this state fixed but we are in such a mess that unfortunately it can't be fixed without some things to help generate revenue and don't tell me we need more business because with the mess the state is in no one wants to have a business here so until we can get above water no wants to look at RI. There are ways to make the toll idea work with out hurting the taxpayers as much as more tax increases. Either way they will get it out of us but the difference is raising our taxes will only effect us where those coming through out state from out of town won't be contributing to the taxes because if our taxes go to high who will want to visit here??? Just an opinion.

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A concerned Citizen

3:38 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012

Sorry i mean to say maybe not a toll on the sakonnet bridge. Sorry about that.

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Ted Geisel

3:48 pm on Friday, October 26, 2012

Perhaps instead of taxes and tolls we could reign in spending???

John

6:24 pm on Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Hey, maybe instead of calling it a TOLL it could be called a USER FEE. People that use the bridge should have no problem paying a fee to use it. Why should the rest of the state have to pay for us to cross the bridge? There are discounts in place for vehicles that use it daily or often, stop being so lazy and arrange for an EZ pass or FAST PASS. It was all the traffic to the area that caused the need to replace the bridge anyway, pay for your use, it is no different than anything else in life.

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Robert E

12:38 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

John why should we be subsidizing the rest of the state with our user fees. Nowhere in the rest of the state do they pay a user fee for their roads and bridges. The state is now going to take our share of the dot budget that was funded by our taxes and spred it around the rest of the state while the east bay roads and bridges are funded buy the user fee. That is the problem it is not the user fee but the fact that no other area of the state is asked to pay one. The state shoud not be collecting the gas tax in the east bay. We are self funding our roads and bridges and why should we have to pay for the rest of the state.

Joe Sousa.

6:22 am on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

John, The fuel tax, registration fees, and the cost to renew your license are more than enough to pay for maintenance for our roads and bridges. Don't Give the legislature a break. With and eight and a half billion dollar budget there is no excuse for the neglect.

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John

2:28 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

While this is a very well written (and scary - it is Halloween after all) article about the tolls I believe Mr. Robicheau is unfounded in some of his statements. I'd attempt to correct them all, but instead would urge those concerned by the statements he makes to refer to the legislation that transferred the two structures from DOT to RIBTA. No, the new toll is not a step to use Newport county gas tax money to pay for roads elsewhere. Instead, the toll is a way for RIBTA to be able to issue bonds to perform maintaince work so the Jamestown Verazzano bridge and the new Sakonnet River bridge don't end up like their predicessors. At well over $1 Billion to replace the Pell bridge, I'd rather pay $0.83 per trip as a resident and let the out of state people pay $4.00 than see any of the main arterial roadways for Newport, Middletown, and Portsmouth fall into disrepair again.

Finally, I am opposed to the tolls, I think they damage the local economy and make life more difficult for east bay residents, but I'd urge whomever is reading these posts to do some homework before they start making blanket assumtions about the nature of the current state budget and finances.

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Joe Sousa.

3:51 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

John you truly don't get it.The Gas tax was created to fund high way and bridge maintenance. The Legislature has mismanaged this funding for many years leading to the state of disrepair we have now. Do your research. The Infrastructure bank proposed by the legislature will be robbed just as they robbed the gas tax . History will repeat itself if people like you continue to spout an uneducated agenda.

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John ("Anything But Sue")

5:54 pm on Wednesday, October 31, 2012

DISCLAIMER: There is more than one JOHN on this forum. While I don't agree or disagree with the JOHN above..I am NOT the John above. Maybe you can differentiate between us this way.....The John above seems to make longer posts than I do. I am the JOHN who likes wind turbines (when they work) and is Best Friends with Bill Carson. (BIG Grin)

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Elizabeth Geary

12:48 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

To those who say it is just a toll, pay it, I really do not thihk you realize the inpact this will have on the island. Every item you buy will be priced higher, every thing from food to going out to eat, groceries,etc.EVERYTHING! There will be many buisness's that will close down because of the cost increase from the toll getting passed on to buisness and we will have more people out of work as places close down. We will never be the same.The changes to this island will not be a positive one. It is more than just a toll, it is a change to the quality of life for all of us here and surrounding towns. Simply:the goverment can't control it's spending. Why should Aquidneck Island bear the brunt of politians out of control? So sorry Jim Lipe you lost those petitions. I really hope they turn up. They may be names on a paper but they represent votes to the people running for office. Time for Chaffee to go..........far away.

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tivertontrue

2:02 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

tolls will have a bad impact on Newport county, I think any elected person who voted for them as part of the final budget should be voted out, I've been told "But there where many very important things in the whole budget1"? more important than killing jobs and taking money staright from the people who elected YOU?If Tolls aren't stopped and put in place i guess you all will need Bridge crew jobs, because I'm sure voters will remember

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John

2:21 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

There are two "John"s on this post.

The fact still remains, making blanket statements about the money being "robbed" and telling half truths in an attempt to self promote is a waste of time. The east bay is underrepresented in the house and senate, so while a group of you continue to bemoan the current crop of legislators, I'd ask what else would you like them to do? What else could they have done apart from oppose the budget? With an insuffient number of votes, nothing could have prevented the bridge from being transferred to RIBTA. Let's look on the bright side of things. At least now, we will have a bridge that can be maintained by an organization that is pretty damn good at maintaining bridges.

I'd add to the conversation that the biggest impact to our local economy is the possible closing of the base in Newport via the BRAC or even naval command just moving jobs. If the sakonnet river bridge wasn't transferred, the Pell bridge would be looking at an increase in toll which could negatively affect the Navy's decisions to keep operations in Newport. It's not all bad.

Unfortunately the tolls are here to stay. Let's focus our conversations on things we can control, like making RI a better, more attractive place for businesses. That's what I plan to do...

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paul

2:24 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

Horseneck Beach is just as nice as Newport and the Braga Bridge will remain toll free. If they bill me for going over the Sakonnet Bridge it's just another case of taxation without representation! Sakonnet River or Jamestown would both be nice venues for a tea party.

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tivertontrue

2:43 pm on Thursday, November 1, 2012

BRAC could care less about a rise in tolls on the Pell bridge NUSC workers from CONN. get a special rate now, t Have YOU heard one word from the feds, NUSC? war college, rhat's a FACT, RI puts tolls on the Sakonett River Bridge and you can bet BRAC will stand up and take notice, if will imeditly raise the cost of living on thousands of workers and the cost of contracts, FACT!Not one word from NUSC, Raytheon, OCS the Navy? WHY? Because this is a state issue, they have no say in this until tolls are imposed or not, The Ga is about to bag Newport county and you think it's not a bad deal???

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