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School Committee Candidate Offers Thanks and Congratulations, Encourages Involvement

To the Editor:

Well, running for public office is definitely an edifying experience, and it's one that more people should gain. Congratulations to everybody (on all sides) whom I joined on the campaign field in Tiverton, this time around, and best wishes to those who won. I suspect circumstances are going to prevent its being an easy term.

Among the lessons that justify specific mention, here, is the gratitude of knowing that over 2,000 of my neighbors offered their vote beside my name. That's an encouraging amount of trust, and even in defeat, it's trust that ought to be answered with continued effort toward the betterment of the town.

Thank you, especially, to those who solicited, donated, called, and knocked on doors on my behalf. Such efforts were every bit as significant as anything that I managed to do.

The most important lesson, though, was actually a confirmation of something that families and educators already know. In all of the stories about the schools, good and bad, that I heard while campaigning, one theme seemed universal: No factor is as crucial in your children's success as the involvement of their parents. The law may require that school committee members put students first in their official duties, but no amount of dedication from them, the teachers, or the administration can substitute for the personal advocacy and support of mothers and fathers.

To those who have students in the Tiverton school system, I implore you to make your child's success your top priority. That includes help with homework and communication with teachers, of course. But it also includes keeping a close eye on the operation of the district.

Ask questions. Challenge the explanations that you're given.

Far too many of the school committee meetings that I've attended over the years have been conducted in front of a nearly empty room. A great number of changes and complications are rolling down the hill toward America's public classrooms --- from a national common core curriculum to the continued struggle of government budgeting.

Your presence must be constantly felt. And when the opportunity and the need arise, I hope you'll consider seeking the experience that has taught me so much over the past nine months and run for office. It should be the rule, not the exception, that every seat on the committee is challenged.

 

Justin Katz

Tiverton School Committee Candidate 2012

Just Another Taxpayer

7:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Mr Katz writes "I suspect circumstances are going to prevent its being an easy term." I wonder what the author is referencing with this comment?

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Just Another Taxpayer

8:00 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Here is what Mr. Katz stated on his website "The most discouraging thing about Tuesday's election results was the totality of it. From where I sit, voters made the wrong decisions at the local level, at the state level, and at the federal level."

This comment provides valuable insight into how Mr. Katz views the citizens in our town, state, and country.

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BD

10:08 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

"Congratulations to all Tuesday’s winners. I want to sincerely thank ALL the candidates. Tiverton needs our citizens who step forward to volunteer and make our community stronger. Tiverton faces some difficult issues ahead, and l am confident we will be up to the task. It is my most sincere hope that we put the past behind us and work together to shape Tiverton’s future."

Guess who wrote this?

Dave Nelson, Nov 5th, 2010

I wonder if he still feels the same way? I suspect like many other unanswered questions, we'll never know.

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KSilvia

9:26 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

"To those who have students in the Tiverton school system, I implore you to make your child's success your top priority. "

I think they just did. They elected Black, Herrmann and Larkin!

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JustAsking

3:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Mr. Katz,

I encourage you to follow your own advice and as a parent keep a close eye on the operation of your own children’s parochial school. “Ask questions. Challenge the explanations that you’re given.” What kind of curriculum are they using? How and why was it selected? What are the teachers’ qualifications? How are teachers evaluated and how much of that evaluation is based on evidence of student learning? What kinds of standardized tests are used to judge student learning in ELA, math, and science? How do the school’s results compare to those of other parochial and public schools statewide and nationwide? Are student scores rising, falling or flat? Why? What’s being done to improve scores? Where is the money being spent? Do a complete money-in, money-out analysis. Look at the yearly audits. You clearly have the time and interest to invest in these activities. Make your own children your top priority. I’m sure other parents at the school will be grateful as their children will benefit as well.

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b kcaj

5:03 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

How interesting-In the mainstream media such as the Patch, Katz offers a half hearted, concilatory concession speech, but on his two ultra right wing anti-government blogs he rants like a madman against the winners.

Typical Justin Katz-tries to pander to his audience. Face it Justin-you and the TCC are persona non grata in this town.

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Justin Katz

5:15 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

I was going to ignore the graceless attacks, but I think two things need to be clarified.

1) I did not "rant like a madman." http://www.anchorrising.com/barnacles/015000.html I said I think the voters "made the wrong decisions." That's hardly a surprising thing for an unelected candidate to say.
2) The vote margins clearly do not show that any of us are "persona non grata."

Of course, some of the anonymous bullies on Patch, as well as some of the organizers of Tiverton 1st, define "community" as "people who agree with me." That's a very dangerous, exclusionary attitude, and I hope that's not what most of the elected candidates mean by "Tiverton Proud."

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Just Another Taxpayer

7:52 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Mr. Katz, when posters confront you with questions that you can't answer or challenge your Far Right Wing ideology you refer to them as "bullies". Your belief that the voters got it "wrong" at every level (local, state, and national) demonstrates how out of touch you are with mainstream America. Elections are about ideas, and your ideas were soundly rejected.

Brain Mederble

8:01 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

I hope to see you live-blogging at the council meeting Tuesday, Justin. I hope you plan on documenting this historic occasion as gleefully and with the same awe that you documented the last inauguration ceremony (or as you referred to it as "The Changing of the Guard"). We then heard that "all citizens be represented and promised to give a voice to those most in need", but I'm not sure that happened. There's always hope that it will happen this time. I hope you are as optimistic as the majority of you fellow Tivertonians are for this historic night.

P.S. Tripe such as "some of the anonymous bullies on Patch, as well as some of the organizers of the TCC, define "community" as "people who agree with me." That's a very dangerous, exclusionary attitude" really doesn't help heal the divide in town, does it?

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Gloria Crist

9:29 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I certainly do not wish you harm Mr. Katz-I have graciously stepped back from any display of sheer inyourface joy at the overwhelming show of support for a new way in leadership-especially for the school committee. I do, however, take great offense at your petty and whiny attempts to disgrace an organization that was built from a common purpose: to heal the divide and move Tiverton forward.Through a tremendous amount of sweat and soul Tiverton First-carved a path to move community forward. Does everyone have to agree with us? I certainly hope not for then we would not benefit from healthy and forward thinking discussions. Do we have people who share different opinions and viewpoints? You bet. How wonderful to be surrounded by such big minds who share big ideas and a common goal: to get our community back and to move towards a greater good.I can honestly say with great pride( Tiverton Proud) that I have respect and great admiration for each and every person who came forward to make a difference. Accept the truth- your extremist negative views-shared by many o f the TCC ( what's left of them) were rejected. Tiverton spoke. Tiverton found her voice. And while you may throw around big words and a big ego-people remembered one thing: they are attached to your small mind. In the words of a southern philosopher: If you mind your own business-you don't have time to mind the business of others. I ,for one, am thankful you will not be minding the business of our students.

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Renee Cwiek

9:32 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Honestly, all I saw in you as a candidate was someone who didn't like to be questioned and an incredible amount of negativity about our school systems. I saw someone who couldn't see the good in our schools and didn't want to hear about it or even attempt to seek it out. I think many other people saw that as well. It's a shame.

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KSilvia

2:14 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

I and others I know just didn't believe that you had our kids best interests at heart period. Everyone I know who supported you, supported you because they wanted lower taxes not because they wanted better schools. That was divide as I see it.

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Beelzebub

7:19 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

Why is the lame stream media ignoring the campaign button story? We are going to ride the buttons back into power. Congratulations on taking the high road, Justin. You knew the election was tainted by Buttongate and didn't even bring it up here. Very gracious. We need more people like you in power that believe in the right kind of propaganda. The TCC will rise again! (Even if we can't use that name anymore.)

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Tom

7:34 am on Friday, February 15, 2013

I want to here more about the SS Caron. The poop pumper is the crowning achievement of the former TCC Town Council. Also, is Lawton Aveneu still getting preferential treatment or has someone told Goncelo and Berlucchi the election changed the political dynamic in Town.

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Gloria Crist

6:48 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Considering Justin Katz is now wasting more taxpayer money with his ButtonGate paranoia....we are so, so very lucky he was NOT voted to sit on the school committee-what a blatant conflict of interest- what a blatant waste of our money and precious time of so many (except his). His need to go after Nancy Mello on a matter that was long ago resolved speaks to his character-or lack there of. Poor Justin can not accept the fact he lost and would rather hide behind his anger. Is this really Tiverton Cares? Or just more TCC residue that just will not wash off anything it touches.

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Dan D

7:08 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

he didnt just lose. Losing would be if he was, say 50 votes shy. How many votes did he receive? 3 or 4 hundred?

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Justin Katz

8:09 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

2,458

http://www.ri.gov/election/results/2012/general_election/tiverton/

The idea that I'm bitter at having lost is laughable. The anger and pettiness of the "Tiverton First" crowd (who couldn't be bothered to show up at the bridge toll hearing, by the way) is crystal clear, as are the personal attacks and viciousness. Four years of union-backed vitriol had I won was going to make for a painful period of public service. I feel badly for the students and the taxpayers, but I'm happy to be able to spend my time on other things.

As for my charter complaint, it really and truly shows how little thinking you folks are willing to do that you reduce it to partisan bickering. This is about protecting the charter complaint process so that town clerks can't run interference for their political allies. That sword can cut both ways.

bigmanny

10:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Justin thanks for thinking of us,the little simple people with your charter complaint. The vitriol that many have for you has nothing to do with unions and more to do with the fact that you are a pompous clown who likes to hear himself talk. Do you really expect us to believe that had you won, you would still be filing this complaint. How many union members live in town and vote in town, what percentage of the voting population is controlled by the evil unions? You lost because you are a rabid conservative who has views that many find extreme, that and the fact that you are a whiny loudmouth are why you won't ever get elected in the town you seek to destroy.

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Justin Katz

11:11 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013

Tell me, bigmanny, does it make you feel powerful that parents of students at Ranger school (and others) are afraid to speak up about inappropriate activities under the principal's watch because they fear retribution against their children?

Isn't that a circumstance that any administrator with integrity should be very, very concerned to remedy? Of course, I ask that rhetorically, given that you comment anonymously, prefer insults to argument, and utter divisive nonsense that people with whom you disagree "seek to destroy" the town.

And yes, I would absolutely be going forward with this complaint under any electoral circumstances. Maintaining the ability of residents to file complaints against town officials and their employees is just too important.

Renee Cwiek

7:10 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Afraid of the principal at Ranger School? Ridiculous. And shame on those parents then for not speaking up about these inappropriate activities!!!! I would be the first one to speak up if I knew something inappropriate was going on. It's our job as parents to speak for our kids. Maybe some parents just don't have the backbone...or are making things up?

I was reading your blog the other day. You again were going off about the cost of special education. You said something along the lines of students whose course work is almost more of a medical procedure. It's comments like this one that kept you from getting elected. It's why I am so happy that we have the SC that we do. Thanks to them, I don't have to worry about the services my special education child and other children receive. It was an incredibly ignorant, hurtful, and spiteful comment to make. I don't think you have a clue about children like ours and what their education entails.

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bigmanny

7:19 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Tell me Mr. Katz, does it make you feel powerful to intimidate town employees with frivolous complaints. Do you really expect us to believe you would be doing this if you had one your election? You lost because you are out of touch with the regular folks in Tiverton. Even if I was on the same page as you with fiscal ideas, I would never vote for someone who seeks to limit the rights of others and is so out of touch with the needs of families of student with disabilities. The unions had nothing to do with your loss, it was your personality, as well as your petty and pompous attitude that cost you the election.

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Justin Katz

8:33 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I don't expect you to believe anything. You're so full of hatred that you'd doubt me if I said that the Sakonnet River Bridge has been replaced.

As I said, I would absolutely be following up with this matter, whatever had happened during the election. As for "intimidating," I had a long and friendly discussion with Mrs. Mello about my concerns back in early December (or so). She agreed that the only recourse would be a charter complaint, and she understands why I'm pursuing it.

My reference to the unions was not with regard to the elections, but to the four years of organized aggression that my victory would have subjected me to. My personality may be what it is, but the teachers' union in particular was illustrating how bullying it could be long before I appeared on the scene.

BD

8:00 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

"Maintaining the ability of residents to file complaints against town officials and their employees is just too important."

No one has interfered with the ability of residents to file complaints. In fact, the Town Council has entertained your (frivolous) complaints on two occasions now. Just because you can't handle the truth and don't accept it doesn't make it any less true. If you were really an advocate for the taxpayers you shouldn't have a problem supporting a charter amendment requiring the complainant be responsible for reimbursing any of the Town's legal fees spent defending these frivolous (losing) complaints. Can we count on your support on this important matter empowering the taxpayer?

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Justin Katz

8:39 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

The clerk has made her office capable of dismissing charter complaints based on her own judgment after an inadequate review of evidence. I don't believe Mrs. Mello is acting politically, but she won't be clerk forever, and this precedent will give future clerks the ability to protect their political allies in town government.

As for your proposal, that would be a significant constraint on the ability of the people of Tiverton to act as watchdogs over their government. Town employees' are represented at taxpayer expense and face a maximum fine of $300. Requiring townspeople to pay for legal fees would make even worse the problem that Solicitor Teitz is amplifying, here, where his deficient advice to Mrs. Mello in the original matter now has the town paying for three lawyers. It's quite a racket!

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BD

9:01 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Sorry, but that's just doubletalk. If there's a legitimate concern and a need to be "watch-dogged", then there's no need to be concerned with the financial ramifications of losing. The only reason that "Solicitor Teitz is amplifying" the need for more legal fees is that we, the taxpayers aren't currently protected by this loophole that I am proposing we fix. Do you really think it's in the town's (financial) best interest to be at the mercy of any crack-pot (I ask that rhetorically) that wants to file a charter complaint and is forced to spend legal dollars for defend itself? I thought that the Town's financial hemorrhaging of legal fees would end when your allies were jettisoned at the last election. Unfortunately, you have found more creative ways to waste our tax dollars though more legal expenses.

If your concern is deficient legal advice provided by the solicitor, why wasn't his contract addressed by the prior council who were forced to pay tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars because of it?

Some "watchdogs".

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Justin Katz

9:08 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I don't know how much money you make, but being liable for legal fees... especially when the first hurdle that a complaint must clear is the politically elected Town Council... would be an insurmountable risk even in the most clear-cut cases of violations. (Honestly, I think my complaint is about as clear-cut as they come, as I'll argue on March 11.)

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BD

9:25 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I respect your right to take advantage of the process that is made available to us, but as a taxpayer I resent having to pay for it. That's why I have suggested a remedy that would seek to limit the town's financial exposure. Ordinarily I would think that's an idea you would support.

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Gloria Crist

9:36 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

BD- as long as someone else is paying for it- Justin sees no harm-and also neglects to see the hypocrisy. As a taxpayer, I resent having to pay for his small minded, paranoid and wasteful arguments......

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Justin Katz

9:42 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I wouldn't support your suggestion, but I would definitely support some sort of appeals process short of a second charter complaint. That's the underlying problem, here.

The town clerk essentially invented a charter complaint process that is different from the steps described in the charter. That freed the town council to throw up its hands and duck the responsibility to review her decision, saying the charter didn't grant them that authority. (Obviously, there's no reason it would, if the clerk was doing something not in the charter.)

If there had been some appeals process through the municipal court that didn't entail complaining of a charter violation, I'd have gladly taken that approach. For that matter, I'd have taken any other approach, but everybody seemed to agree that only a complaint would do.

I've voted for Nancy Mello twice, and I expect I'll do so again. But preserving the ability of residents of Tiverton to bring complaints against elected officials and employees is just too important. If you look at the list of people who've filed complaints in the past, they can hardly be said to be my allies: Mike Burk, Deb Pallasch, Don Bollin, Laura Epke. Brian Medeiros frequently threatened charter complaints over the past several years. All of these people should continue to have access to the process without fear that a clerk will thwart and embarrass them.

Gloria Crist

8:21 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Justin's responses are true to form: And, as always, need to be clarified and supported with the real truth. FIRST: Calling out Tiverton First for not showing up at the NO TOLLS hearing is childish-perhaps you want to call out the other thousands who could not attend due to schedules and the reality of life-yet also strongly support NO TOLLS. Our position stays the same, we contributed funds to the common goal and we take very seriously, the impact the tolls will have on our community. SECOND: Your information on Ranger comes from a parent who is so stuck in TCC( or was when they existed)mode she can not see beyond her own blind spots. Instead of speaking her mind regarding her concerns-she reports back to you( which in itself is alarming). Not only is this suspect-but now she is "executive board member" of the new Tiverton Cares( left over TCC) who want to "do something positive for our schools" when several if not all of the Tiverton Cares members supported the "borrowing" of $600,000 from the schools and the refusal to return it-costing taxpayers thousands in legal fees. These are also the same people who call "doing something positive for the schools" donating "slightly used" hats and gloves to the "poor children".Not only does this show a lack of compassion-but a clear lack of understanding on school policy and protocol. And to top it off, one of the Tiverton Cares members is the same woman who filed the original Buttongate complaint.
Small minds Justin-small ideas.

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Justin Katz

8:51 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

It is disconcerting how many parents are afraid to come forward when they aren't happy with something that's going on in the school. I would think that people who care about the community would take that problem seriously, whatever their political views. But then, it's the fruit of a bullying union and bullying administrators. And it's clearly your strategy and that of those who join you in kicking off these mean, angry comment threads unrelated to anything that appears in a months' old article.

No discussion of the merits of the complaint. No concerns about people or about the possibility that I might have a point, even if I'm an evil union basher. Political opponents must be destroyed. An example must be made of anybody who dares to hold a different view. Everybody should think twice before stepping forward to speak against the Establishment.

You bring to mind a passage out of George Orwell's 1984: "His reason told him that there must be exceptions, but his heart did not believe it. [Women of the Party] were all impregnable, as the Party intended that they should be."

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Justin Katz

9:02 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

And what kind of person attacks others for trying to gather winter gear for poor children? You're like a cartoon. Unbelievable.

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Renee Cwiek

9:05 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I think it went right over your head. Not surprising.

Gloria Crist

8:54 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires"-Susan B. Anthony.
And Justin, before you go off on any religious tangent-this quote has nothing to do with how I feel about God-but more about how I feel about your blatant hypocrisy.(hypoCRAZY) This town is so, so lucky you were not voted to our school committee-not so lucky we have to tolerate your whining/hate speech in the name of justice.

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Justin Katz

10:17 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Just to clarify, in case you aren't familiar with it: George Orwell's 1984 is not a religious book.

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Gloria Crist

10:28 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I am very familiar with Orwell-my comment went more to your overwhelming need to push your religious right viewpoint-which, I guess went over your head. Might I also add why did you not file a complaint against Nelson, Lambert and Coulter when a town employee, Gancolo, was used to influence the FTR?? Your hypocrisy is in full force-and your ignorance is showing.

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Gloria Crist

10:30 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

oh. and. I am nowhere near German. I repeat: your ignorance is showing!!! Breathe Justin-Breathe!

Renee Cwiek

9:00 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Justin, I call BS on your whole parents are afraid to come forward for several reasons. As a parent, it is your job to be your child's advocate. If you're not doing that, then there's a problem. I have three children in our school system. One in the special education program. Whenever I have had a problem or concern, I have gone to the teacher, principal, and on a couple of occasions, the superintendent. I have never been afraid of any repercussions this may have on my children. Mainly because there has never been any, and if there was, then I would have addressed that as well. Every person I have every spoken to has been receptive and took my concerns seriously. From reading Gloria's post, I can only conclude that you're getting your nonsense from a friend who shares your views and just wants to stir the pot.

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Justin Katz

10:15 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Renee,

I do not know why so many parents do not come forward; I can only say that many see that as the safest way forward. I'll offer that your experience and fraulein Crist's might not be the best gauge, inasmuch as you tend to align with the same side, politically, as the teachers and school department. That's not an attack or complaint; it's just an important bit of context in this discussion.

And I definitely agree that "there's a problem." It appears from this thread that the principal of Ranger knows who at least one such parent is. Shouldn't a professional administrator charged with helping children and their parents through the anxiety-ridden years of early education be concerned about what message is getting out to people?

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Renee Cwiek

10:25 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I don't think it's the principal's job to go chasing after a parent concerning rumors. In my opinion, that is unprofessional.

If your child is having a problem, then be a parent and do something about it. It's very simple.

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Renee Cwiek

10:33 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

And I'm curious as to why you refer to early education as "anxiety ridden"? With three children I can't really say I've experienced anxiety over their elementary school years. I don't really know anyone that has. What an odd statement to make.

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Renee Cwiek

10:52 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

I'm also curious as to why you would refer to Gloria as fraulein? Is it because you have problems dealing with strong, smart, independent women?

Gloria Crist

9:13 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Once again, it shows how little you know. Many parents, myself included, voice concerns and ask questions-I can personally say my arguments and concerns were addressed with school employees and my child did not suffer-in fact- my child learned a valuable lesson about being responsible and going to the source of a disagreement. How ludicrous this "parent" you refer to so much goes to you-and not the source of her concerns. YOU-who have no children in our school system-you who have a strong dislike for public schools in general.And again, how hypocritical this parent is now heading up an organization named Tiverton Cares???!!! Unlike you-I welcome different opinions-and refuse to churn hate speech and waste taxpayer money. While it may come to your surprise-you are not God, nor mayor, nor leader of this town. Justin-you alone can not make the rules and regulations just because you are so paranoid, angry and feel entitled.Grow up, take responsibility for the negative footprint you are leaving.

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Gloria Crist

9:21 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Justin "slighty used" hats and gloves? and referring to kids as "the poor children"...give me a break. Again, you are so clueless. I love the idea- but for gosh sakes- GO OUT AND BUY NEW HATS AND GLOVES-and stop referring to kids as "poor" And do it for the act of doing it-TO REALLY CARE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE GREATER GOOD-again, the hypocrisy looms.

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Just Another Taxpayer

10:11 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Mr. Katz returns from his winter hibernation to once again continue trying to implement his right Wing, neoconservative, views on his fellow residents. He along with his fellow members of Tiverton Cares(formed by members of the now defunct TCC) still believe that two or three buttons that were on a counter in an elementary school is the reason why the TCC candidates for office were defeated in last November's election. They need to blame someone since they can't blame themselves for why they lost.

I believe this quote from Mr. Katz clearly demonstrates his agenda. "As for my charter complaint, it really and truly shows how little thinking you folks are willing to do that you reduce it to partisan bickering. This is about protecting the charter complaint process so that town clerks can't run interference for their political allies. That sword can cut both ways."

Apparently, Mr. Katz believes the Town Clerk knowingly avoided her job responsibilities because she was in some way allied with Tiverton First and the "unions". Last time I checked, in our country you were innocent until proven guilty of doing something "wrong". The burden of proof rests with the person filing the complaint. To date, all I have read is that Mr. Katz did not like the Town Clerk's findings. Mr. Katz where is your proof that supports your complaint? I tend to think you do not have any facts to support your accusations against the Town Clerk. This another ideological attack from Mr. KAtz

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Just Another Taxpayer

10:17 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Mr. Katz's statement that school officials intimidate parents. He is using a straw-man's argument. Doesn't anyone find it odd that only Mr. Katz continues to make this claim? Once again, Mr. Katz has no evidence or facts to support his statement.

Too bad, Mr. Katz did not follow his friend David Nelson's approach to public life which was to disappear from public view.

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Just Another Taxpayer

10:21 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013

Why would any public official (elected or appointed) be overly concerned about someone who is making statements that cannot be supported with facts?

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