Great job, Cynda. You are who you are, and don't ever let anyone tell you it's wrong.

Joe,
The question shouldn't be "why do kids hae to show their sexual preference in school" but "why should kids need to HIDE their sexual preference in school?" They should be able to be themseles. Kids date in high school and hae relationships. Why should they feel the need to hide who they are dating? School is both an educational and social .

It should be a place to get an education. Every thing else is irrelevant. Being the best in a competitive world should be the only priority. Promoting ones sexual preference doesn't help our kids compete with Asia or Europe. It is another distraction that obstructs the educational process.

Joe, you have said things on Patch that are inflammatory, but this one takes the cake. Perhaps an education in learning acceptance is exactly what our kids need. It might do wonders for the entire community.

Thank you, Tiverton Dad for your great comment.

Joe,

So ignorant. In order to compete our children need to be confident, smart risk takers. It is not just about getting a basic education as you put it. Just ask Gates, Buffet, et al. Seems to me that Ms. Martin is displaying all those traits and so is learning exactly what she needs to be successful. Congratulations to the Tiverton School Committee and Mr. Forrest for understanding this.

And this is why if I have anything to say about it, Tiverton will lose school funding to local charter schools. It doesn't matter if gay or straight, if sexual meet-up groups are being promoted in our schools rather than improving test scores, that school is failing. Is it really more important for our children to get 'sexed-up', than learning advanced math?

Rep Dan said "s3exual meet up groups..........."

You are echooing groups like the family research council, American Family Association etc - who are all listed as hate groups on the southern poverty law center's hate group list.

We need people elected who solve real problems and help to socialize our kids. Not people who worship at he alther of hate groups who drive several thousand Tyler Clementis to suicide every year.

Rep Dan's America is still spelled AmeriKKKa. The only difference is they have found a new group to hate.

But what else would one expect from a republican..................

Except that much of the repubican party - especially the younger generation - is also is also accepting gay people as equals.

Good for you, Cynda! I think this is wonderful and you should be very proud of yourself. Don't let haters get you down. They aren't worth the air they breath.

Rep. Gordon:

I'd suggest that the essential purpose of charter schools is to increase choice and competition so that public schools IMPROVE, not so that public schools are gradually defunded. Extracurriculars and student groups are manifestly not the problem; in addition to poor personnel practices, the problem is curricular priorities.

It's not inconceivable, as the charter movement breaks free of union-bought politicians, that we'll see schools that emphasize students' comfort with sexual orientation as part of their value proposition, and if they can attract a sufficient student base and educate the kids to expected standards, all's well. (The problem will arise when schools that emphasize, say, comfort with religious beliefs are prevented from doing the same.)

As a general matter, though, I suspect it would be more of a distraction from academics to actively prevent students from forming such groups, and one cannot get around three basic facts:

* It's their school, too.
* It's their community, too.
* You're their representative, too.

Calling people who worship God and follow his teachings prejudice only shows their thinly veiled prejudices.

I could care less about ones sexual preference. I just don't think our schools are the place to show it. Getting an education is the priority for the kids. Learning to be a productive citizen is the mission of the schools. Their sexual preference should be between the parents and the child.

Joe, it might be best to show some restraint on this topic. Prejudice in the name of religion is still prejudice. You should be congratulating this young lady.

Whats the big outcry? This young woman was gay last week and is this week, so what? that's her choice, as far as posters in the school and such I don't think so. Being gay or not has nothing to do with education as far as i can see. Congratdulation to Ms Martin in helping to lessoning bullying at the high school, As to all the once again broke out above, this is getting to being read by more and more people ever day and to indulge in personal comments brings nothing to the table. Gay, Black, White, Whatever, if your here legal this is your country, as far as I can see no harm has been done here, and perhaps some comfort provided No taxpayer money was spent!

Joe are you saying that no young Christians are bullies. Does that mean that there are no bullies in catholic or other religious schools. It is still hard to believe that anyone voted for you.

guys you should just drop it, there is no point on useing someone life chioces to pick on each other like a couple of bully's now changeing the subject why does Mr Rearik says the Schools are held at 4.25%. i thuoght the town and school were a combo of 4.25%

Jim,

The town is held to a 4.25% increase in its levy. The schools have a separate cap (with the same declining percentage) on the amount that they can add to their budget request.

Of course, it's a pretty weak cap. The Budget Committee could notch it up, and the FTM could do the same. Then, the next year's cap is based on whatever the schools actually got.

Gloria Crist
9:03am on Tuesday, March 29, 2011
I can not believe Rep. Gordon just said that............an open mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Gloria THANK YOU for pointing out to Rep Moron that he is out of line as a Rep of our district!

Joe Sousa I think you missed the part of school that had to do with education or you wouldn't be so ignorant to this well intentioned article!

I'm shocked, shocked, and disgusted that a person who purports to be a "Representative" of this community has basically decided that he only represents people who conform to his sexual preference. Mr. Gordon, to label a GSA a "Sexual meet-up" group only shows how grossly uninformed you are about this issue. You come from an era--one that has sadly not been eradicated--that believed that anytime two gay people get together the first thing they want to do is have sex. This post will come back to haunt you, I think.

Here are two points from this article that people need to remember: "Gay students in particular face hardship in the hallways, according to a 2009 Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network survey which concluded 90 percent experienced harassment." And, "Students attending schools that have GSAs were found 75% less likely to hear homophobic slurs. "

That what this is about, Gordon. Protection from bullies like you.

thanks for clearing that up Mr Katz, so the school is held to a ruffle 4.25% cap from last year's total, and the town 2? sorry 4 my lack of knowledge, just starting out on the fun road of local politics.

Sometimes it is good to see comments like those from two of Tiverton's elected officials Mr. Gordon and Mr. Sousa. They serve to remind us that there is still a lot of ignorance and meanness in the world. Imagine the gall of this man to threaten to decrease funding to the thousand or more public school students becuase he disagrees with a program being set up to aid children. A program that does nto seem to cost any money and will most likely take up no academic time for those involved. I hope that people don't forget this when election time rolls around again. I think that Mr. Katz may have had the best take on it when he said"
It's their school, too.
* It's their community, too.
* You're their representative, too."

Jim,

Don't apologize. The budget stuff is WAY more complicated than it has to be... so much so that one begins to suspect that it's a deliberate strategy for confusing the public.

The school district's cap is on the budget that it can request from the Budget Committee. It takes its total revenue from local sources and multiplies it by the cap (1.425, this year), and that's what it can send to the town as its budget. (Naturally, things get more complicated when state aid gets cut; in fact, during the last budget cycle, the committee tried to count federal aid as local money.)

The major difference with the town cap is that it is (ostensibly) a cap on the actual amount that the town can increase its tax levy, unless it meets certain criteria. (That, too, is a complicated debate; some people think the FTM can do whatever it wants.)

So, basically, the schools have to get their request under the cap, but they can then declare that not to be enough and rally their supporters to grant more money at the FTM. The TOWN (in theory) cannot exceed its levy without going through certain steps.

That's a great explanation, Justin. I hope others don't view this as an invitation to start debating the budget process, and thereby detract from the brave work being done by Cynda Martin.

I'm a student at THS and a member of the GSA. I'm heading off to college in the fall with a solid educational background. Anyone who has spent a significant amount of time in any high school nowadays understands that alongside the standard eduation comes the need to learn how to navigate and develop healthy relationships. For decades teenagers have struggled to figure out who they are and how they fit into the society around them. This is nothing new. Groups, like they the GSA, are important parts of the school culture and allow students to explore and have a better understanding of themselves and others. If we are to become productive members of society we need to be well rounded young adults and these groups, along with academics, are all part of that process. Neither stands alone.

Great input. Aelish. Thanks. I would add that it's very difficult to learn if school is an unsafe environment.

Representative Gordon,

Hmmm......failing?
I have yet to see true failure when one promotes acceptance and tolerance of diversity. Understandably, ignorance may take awhile to overcome with education, but we are supported by civil rights and the principle of doing the right thing. The high school in Tiverton appreciates the ongoing support from students, staff, the school committee, and the community. Sometimes when one , like you, is puzzled by concepts as these, he may need to step aside and grow before attempting to lead.

Steven M. Fezette, Principal
Tiverton High School

As I read through these comments I can not believe the ignorance of those that have posted. Learning about tolerance and acceptance of others in the midst of our diverse society in which we live is a necessary life skill that our youth MUST be taught in a safe positive learning environment. It is more clear than ever that this must be taught in our schools because from the cutting words of those that have posted, it has certainly not been taught at home. To our political candidates.....please don't run again. To our concerned citizens....thank you for your support with your positive comments. To our students...congratulations for your insight and efforts because as you can see, many grown ups still have a lot to learn. To the members of GSA.......please reach out to the community because there are many residents of our community that support and applaud your efforts.

So glad to see all the mature adults here.

Thank you Mr. Fezette for speaking up for your students. Lucky kids to have a Principal not afraid to stand up for them.

Nope. Contrary to SSM-advocates' propaganda, it is possible to respect people and accept them as part of one's community without having to conclude that the only biological relationship that can create children is no longer unique.

A great deal of damage has been wrought in our culture, over the past century and a half or so, through a failure to make distinctions between tolerance and indulgence or positive change and revolution.

Dear Cynda,
So proud of you and your efforts. The prejudice you will face as a gay woman will be, at times, overwhelming, but know that those who hate are the minority. As someone who has been around the block a few times, please consider this: don't label yourself as a "gay woman". Be a woman who leads, who inspires, who is kind and just happens to be gay.
Sincerely, Bob

The comments by Rep. Dan Gordon and Tiverton budget committee member, Joe Souza, are abhorrent. I am very involved in a local Catholic school and bullying of gays and others does occur, frequently. The Bible thumpers can dish it out just as easily and viciously as the heathens, as proven by their comments.

Dan, what the heck is a "sexual meet-up group”? I’d like a definition and an example.

This young woman knows who she is and is being true to herself, while you, Dan Gordon, are living a lie. A lie perpetuated by Joe Souza.

I recently moved away from Tiverton and am incredibly thankful that my children will never have the (cough) pleasure of meeting Joe and Dan. I also thank God that across the USA, these backwoods self-hating mouth-breathers are being replaced by kind, loving, tolerant and generous new generations. Today's teens are pretty amazing. Joe and Dan can cling to their thinly-veiled hate and ignorance. It must scare them to the core to know that their way of seeing things is fading fast. I really don't think anyone can call themselves a Christian with that kind of hate in their heart and judgment in their breath.

Peter Forrest
If ignorance is bliss, Rep. Gordon must be a very happy man - but not those he "serves." Through ignorance, he has viciously insulted a group of caring students at Tiverton High School, insulted me, their advisor, insulted the administration and school committee for approving the alliance, and then compounded his ignorance with the arrogance of a bully by threatening to cut funding to the students of the Tiverton public schools. This is an elected public servant?

How quickly they turn to name calling when they can't support an argument. I said I felt the schools are the wrong place to express ones sexual preference. The ignorance is from those who accuse me of bigotry . I never said I was against citizens living the life style they chose. I said not in the schools . It distracts from their education .

Mr. Gordon,
I hope you noticed I chose not to address you as Representative Gordon because you surely do NOT represent everyone! In your comment you said if you had anything to say about it Tiverton would lose funding to local charter schools. Are you implying that charter schools do not have groups such as the GSA ? Are you saying that in charter schools "those" students" suffer in silence to appease ignorant adult such as yourself? Maybe you should do your homework as you are an elected offcial.
I am deeply disturbed by your narrow minded thinking. The GSA is group of students who have learned to stand up for who they are and what they believe in. They are excersing a right that this country was founded upon, freedom..you do remember that part of the constitution? This group is NOT a sexual "meet up" group..in fact what exactly is that? This is a group that meets to support each other, to build accpetance and strengthen their school communty; to brainstorm solutions to probelms such as bullying and ignorance. I am appalled at your complete and utter lack of understanding! Perhaps you should attend a meeting....you might learn something!

Dear Ailish,
Wow. Well thought out and written.
Sincerely, Bob

If these two young women are representative of the caliber of students at Tiverton High School, I think Little Compton may want to reconsider.

speaking os schools bill 0794 assembly filed march 24 2011, taxpayer will no longer decide nea and state will better read this folks

This is incredible! I graduated from Tiverton High School a few years ago. I can't imagine such a group existing then and I'm beyond happy to see things for LGBT students at THS have progressed. Bullying for gay students at THS and high schools across the country does exist and with a GSA students affected by such harassment have a place to find support. I can only wish someone was as brave as Cynda and her friends to start a GSA when I was in school. Great job guys!

i think part of the problem is that zero tolerance at times goes to far, when i was in school we had all these issue's but folks were left alone and if bullying got out of hand someone would step in and give the bully back some of what they were doing. If you got in trouble the punishment fit the crime, bulling/stopping. My kids were bullied in school and were taught to take only so much, one slap to many and the bully was crying, but they both got tossed out of school , has the concept of selfdefence died, my son also made it a point to make sure if the bully started on someone else to stand with them, Is this part of all the suspensions at tiverton high school?

In Joe Souza's defense (not that he needs me), I will say that he has been consistent in his comments that schools should be strictly about the three Rs. Pardon me for summarizing his position, but I believe he has said in the past that band, sports, after-school activities and all other forms of individual self-expression should be banned from public school. I will give him somewhat of the benefit of the doubt that his opinions on this thread are an extension of his views about the role of schools, as unrealistic as they may be.

The fact is, middle school and high have always been places "to express one's sexual preference." School dances, football bleachers, hallways and classrooms are all places where expressions of this have taken place. Mr. Gordon seems to want to regulate this based upon his own personal moral code. But unless Joe and Mr. Gordon want to cancel all of the above mentioned activities, they show their bias and bigotry by singling out a group of people for special exclusionary treatment. Everyone deserves equal treatment under the law, and as elected officials perhaps they need to brush up on that part of our systen of justuce and fair play.

Hi All,
Not sure if it is my computer, but I can no longer see many of Joe Souza's posts. For anyone who reads these postings with any regularity, you know that both Joe Souza and Dan Gordon post and then delete. I must admit, I am very surprised that Dan has not deleted his post. I do feel as though he is probably working on a well-crafted apology.

I ask that all of you copy Joe Souza and Dan Gordon's comments, with the story, and forward them to family, friends, members of the House and Senate and the press.
Thanks, Bob

Here we go Joe. A thousand people don't agree with you and now your going on the defensive with your "name calling" BS. Isn't it ironic that so many people disagree with your mentalitiy to being with?

I feel no need to defend my position. I believe as the previous poster stated "Tiverton Dad" that our schools and our government have become too large. We try to do too much and lack in areas that are much more important for educating our students. There are only so many dollars available . Spreading them thin is the cause of this inequity . School uniforms, no cell phones , longer school days, online home work sites , clean safe modern schools . These are the type of things I support. Teaching our kids to compete in the job market. That should be goal no.# 1

Joe,

This group costs the taxpayers nothing! Do not try and change the subject back to something that is irrelevant! You obviously missed a lot of school in your day because today's society is all about being able to adapt and compete. Reading your comments throughout this article do not surprise me. You should look into developing some type of software that puts a filter on your mouth or, better yet, develop some type of program to create thoughts for you. The students, staff, and administration of the Tiverton School Department do a great job everyday meeting the needs and challenges of today's global economy. In fact, I would say that we do more with less than most school districts of comparable size and budgets. There is enough negativity in this world and it's time to start focusing on the positives that happen every day. The students of Tiverton High School have achieved and will achieve great things despite the ignorance and negativity that surrounds them across the world and in their own hometown! Great work kids and keep it up!

I would suggest you look past my post for people who agree with you. You obviously know it all and no other opinion is valid. Don't stress your self.

Thank you!

Can a group of students start a prayer group at the high school? Of course not. Lets not talk about god or anything like that. More of the Gay Agenda. This group is not at all necessary to the students at the high school. There are laws against people who bully others. If something is not being handled properly by the administration in regards to students who bully, then things at the high school must be changed. I am a heterosexual and do not shout it from the mountaintops. I do not have any problems with gay people however this group in my opinion should be outside of the school. There are many strait students that get picked on as well. Whats next gay dances and proms....

Cynda....I think you are doing a great job. It seems you have a great number of of people who support you, and thats great. Keep up the good work.

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Joe Souza and State Rep Dan Gordan have an OBVIOUS issue against gays. This is done after school hours! This does not cost the town anything! I hope that people of Tiverton remember this during the next election and past this information on of what is being said because I definitely will!

Thank you to all that support our group! Unfortunately there is just no reasoning with the unreasonable. They can most certinly voice their opinions, although not always appropriate, they are all just digging their holes deeper.

Um, no, that won't be the closing word on this. We have no bigger fish to fry than educating our kids in a safe and tolerant environment.

I will admit that the response to this article must mean there is a concern over bullying. I don't think bullies pick only on gay people. They may be seen as weak and an easy target. I will take all of these comments in to consideration. Some were constructive and others I will dismiss. To all who took the time to explain it to me thank you . I look forward to continued debate.

This is a perfect example of what happens when school policy is determined by a group of people (politicians) who for the most part have no concept of what goes on in a public school. Most have never been in a public school ot had any meaningful contact with a high school student for decades. Today’s students come to school with a variety of psychological, emotional and physical problems. When the era of two working parents arrived, it became educations responsibility to deal with these issues. However, you don’t see these problems when your only exposure to education is looking at a data sheet with test scores.

Feeling like you’re social outcast is a huge obstacle in the learning process. Groups such as the GSA Group at Tiverton High, are an important part of the strategy to deal with such issues. They help kids cope, which helps kids learn. They are not sexual meet up groups. If anything, they are support groups. They help their members cope with pressure, harassment and stereotyping that comes with their sexual preference. If you don’t think these barriers exist, look no farther than this blog.

But this is what you get when we have government through the eyes of our tax bill. Narrow minded people, with one agenda, running our government and influencing the future of our education system.

I disagree that our school committee is out of touch with the students. I know for a fact they attend many events and interact with the students. I some times think their attachment to our kids is too strong when it comes to a budget as they want only the best for our kids. Some times more than I think we can afford.
I also don't agree it is the schools job to take care and raise the kids. The reality is that you are right because family problems or lack of a family . Many kids don't have parents that can raise them for any number of reasons. Teachers fill in the gap and do their best to help. I see what goes on in town. I watch and learn every day

Ed said,But this is what you get when we have government through the eyes of our tax bill. Narrow minded people, with one agenda, running our government and influencing the future of our education system.

We elect people to do this work. It's the public's money and the public decides . God Bless the USA.

Number one, I was not talking about Tiverton’s School Committee. Many of the committee members in town are excellent advocates for our students.
Maybe it shouldn’t be our job to deal with these issues. But society has made it our jobs. When I left the middle school I taught at thirteen years ago less than half of the students lived with their two biological parents. The American Family is breaking down. The students show up every day with more and more baggage. We HAVE to deal with whatever they bring to the table. In most cases, it is the law.

Ed, I agree with you 100% !!! We sadly have elected officials that only care about about the feelings of our students! I have spoke to dozens of people about this and Joe SouSa's comments!!! Joe S is an embarrassment to our town of Tiverton!

John are you sure you don't want to reread your post?

These comments just make me sad. How incredibly sickening that people can actually think these things in 2011.....God forbid someone who's already facing bullying come out as gay and do something empowering....we can't allow that, now can we?

The only good thing about these nauseating comments is the fact that voters get to see the real Dan Gordon. Remember this should he choose to run for re-election. Homophobic and closed-minded comments. Some representative.....

We clearly know what he meant Joe.

First, I support the GSA and those administrators and teachers who have helped bring it to fruition. Second, Aelish you speak with wisdom beyond your years. You'll go far.

Finally, it appears Dan Gordon deleted his original comment. I saved it from last night -- just in case:
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Rep. Dan Gordon
7:28pm on Monday, March 28, 2011

And this is why if I have anything to say about it, Tiverton will lose school funding to local charter schools. It doesn't matter if gay or straight, if sexual meet-up groups are being promoted in our schools rather than improving test scores, that school is failing. Is it really more important for our children to get 'sexed-up', than learning advanced math?
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I thought the original thread would be interesting to other news outlets, so I sent a few messages out. WRNI (NPR affiliate) picked it up. You can read Dan Gordon's comments there: http://wrnieducationblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/lawmaker-wants-to-ban-gay-student-group-in-tiverton/#comments

As you will read above Joe, this group has zero effect on a single penny in the school system. They meet after school and often won't even meet on school grounds (not that it matters). As another poster states above, you Joe have no right to be talking about morales. I don't see you being concerned about the Ski Team, Math Club, Robotics Team, Dance Squad, Book Club, Green Team, Peer Helping, Video Club, Web Team, and several others? Are they a drain on your master plan?

"I disagree that our school committee is out of touch with the students. I know for a fact they attend many events and interact with the students."

I have a question for you, if you ask a stranger a handful of general questions, do you now know everything they've been through? Should they now pour their heart out to you? No, they won't, just because you interact with someone and sit through the same assembly as they did, don't let yourself start thinking you know how it is to be in their shoes.

"I some times think their attachment to our kids is too strong when it comes to a budget as they want only the best for our kids. Some times more than I think we can afford."

Seriously? Have you seen the computers the school is running? How about the Ping Pong Tables? Truthfully Tiverton High School makes due with what it has, sure the school could use more money but what school could say differently?

The GSA is a great group, As a member I know I could come to any of them with my problems if need be and talk them through. There is no reason this group should have so many problems with people like Joe Sousa, or Dan Gordon. Personally I support the GSA because of close minded people like yourself, you should have just grinned and shut up. You should have figured it out that people are accepting of the GSA and not being small minded. You've caused yourself to look like fools, did you think people would back you up on your small minded opinions? What where you thinking?

Kinda detracts from the presumption of fairness and reasonableness, don't you think, to delve into a person's past and rely upon mere allegations for ad hominem attacks? I'm referring to a comment from TivertonGirl, which either she deleted or the site's administrator's deleted as libelous, as well as to RI Politics general reference to the deleted comment.

Being in the right doesn't mean that rules of discourse and courtesy don't apply to you.

I quite frankly don't understand why there is so much hate coming from these folks; the very thing they propose to eliminate with their peer support group. Seems to be a double standard here.

To repeat, my assertion is that sex groups, gay or straight, do not belong in schools. The lack of reading comprehension in itself is indicative that there is a problem with our educational system.

Tune in tomorrow to the John DePetro Show at 9am, am630 WPRO, to hear me talk about this issue. I believe most will have a better understanding of my position hearing me talk about it, rather than trying to squeeze what one may from my posting.

Having any of us hear you speak about this won't change our minds, referring the GSA to getting 'sexed-up' is both rude, and completely out of place.

I think we understand your position very clearly Dan! Glad to see you taking this to the airwaves for more press and publicity. What exactly is a sex group is what I was wondering?

I happen to be a male. Excuse me while i laugh my ass off. (I'm still a teen i can do this kinda stuff.)

AH-hem, excuse me Mr. Gorden, you are asking if this group is sexual in any nature? It is only sexual in meaning that we know of, and accept the choices people have made with there sexual preference. It's more of a place people who feel they are bullied, because of said preference, can go to and be comforted in knowing theres people who are there for them. Is that really that bad? I have a question for you? Would you rather there be no GSA and a teen commit suicide because there was no one there for them? Honestly what do you think on that matter?

Excuse me Gordon, (dont bother to forgive me for being so informal with our name and status) but I, also being a member of the GSA at Tiverton High, dont understand your term of "sexual meet-up groups" What does that even mean? Our group gets together to show other students and people of the community that we are just like every other human being. Some of us have different prefferences. As for whoever said that it is distracting us from our school education, be informed that these meetings, happen after school hours.

No hate speech? Only a question, Would you rather a teen commit suicide because there was no GSA, or allow the GSA to be there for said teen? You could say there are people for the teen to talk to, but the teen would be more likely to talk to a group of people his/her own age, who could understand the situation he/she is in. Personally i know i could trust the people in GSA and feel more comfortable explaining my situation to them.
Sorry about that Mr.Gordon, At least i got the gender right.

Sad you wont answer the question. As I've told you, its not my place to invite you to the group. Contact Mr.Forrest at Tiverton High School.

As a former studentand member ofThe Peer Helping Network, formed by Marla Sheffeild, I am disscusted at what people have been saying in regards to the GSA. PHN has had many gay members who could of used a group such as this in high school. If you are so worried about test scores help the students focus by eliminating such distractions as bullying weither it be for creed, religion or sexuality. I support GSA 100 percent. High school ais where students discover who they are aand who they are going to be for the rest of their lives. Many of todays most respected people are gay! Only thing that makes them differnt is who they love. People who claim to know what it is like to be a studnet in High school now a days actually has no idea what any of these kids face. So what right? Wrong! Your telling me that by having this group kids are going to be cut funds in whic are already lacking to being. With. You are disscustung. I will gladly stand up with THS students and facility for what is right. Dr.Martin Luther. King once said " I have a dream." Well GSA is the dream of many students to be accepted as they are and improve their school settings for all around them. Bullying. Will go down because of this. Students will learn to stand up for one another instead of knocking each. Other down for any and all differences. Why don't you look your self in the mirror and say its time for a change. Im proud of every student involved and for everyone who supports them!!

The only point you are proving is that you are fully incapable of answering questions from people in your community. You would rather focus on typos made on the enternet and argue with a teen may I add. Why don't you answer his question. Better yet why don't you speak to parents who's child has taken their life because of bullying weither it be for them being gay or not. Your lack of understandin and approch to the hole topic Mr.Gordon its appalling. You may think you have all the answers because you are an elctive govenment official, but you are sadly wrong. When many people band together and want their. Voices to be heard believe me it can be greater than any half witted excuse for a thought that you may have. You fear something in which you can not control because it does not fit into your idea of cookie cutter standards. People should not fearyou, but you them. This is NOT a threat but words of truth. You may send empty threats to the school system, but its those same people who gave you that power that can have it easily taken away. GSA is one of the many positive things to come out of THS along with anyother after school groups.

Your actions are that of a coward, you'll throw these petty comments at me like you can accomplish some point. All you've managed to accomplish is showing everyone here your pathetic attempts to avoid serious questions while attacking teenagers punctuation.

Dan,
Mocking high school students? Who's the bully now? Do you think limiting funding will help these students?

By the way, you should use a period after "etc". And the three question marks are very 3rd grade.

I have to say being a former student of Tiverton high school. That the education is fine but when it comes to certain things like bullying because of the way people are or how they act its out of control. I would know for a fact because I dropped out of high school there because I couldn't take the bullying but it didn't stop me I still got my education even my GED. It wasn't the high school that failed at giving me my education it was the fact that there is way to much bullying to go on to stop it all. When these groups are formed I give them full respect. The students should stand up for what they believe in and how they feel. No matter if its sexuality, thoughts, a way of life. No one should be judged for how they feel or who they want to be with. Also on another note, why judge a senior at a high school about how they fail and down talk them for what they are doing. Why don't you all look at yourself in the mirrors and realize that your just as childish as kids in high school to come on here and complain about how a student feels and what she wants to start to fix the problems that are being caused. Bullying has been going on for to long now and to many bad things lead from bullying. And now that the internet is around and myspace and facebook the bullying doesn't always happen at school it now happens over the internet. So why don't you adults that sit here and down talk kids for standing up for themselves, LOOK at yourselves and see your being childish.

Nikki or Shawn Question?
If there is so much bullying in school why is it not reported? Why are the bullies not expelled from the school ? I just wonder why it continues. Nikki I am sorry to hear you left school because of it. I am glad you got your GED. I bet you wish you could have graduated with your friends.
If the Students who are causing the harm are not being disciplined, I'd like to know why.

Students, staff and community members,

I think we have all made our points. Mr. Gordon and Mr. Sousa are simply trying to bait you now into saying something that they can point to that will take the heat off their comments. Don't bite. This story has now gone viral (thanks to Mr. Gerlach and others). Now let them defend their words.

WOW!!!! This thread is absolutely fascinating!! We have two elected officials who are so narcissistic and tone deaf that they can not step back and just APOLOGIZE for their ignorant comments.

Rep. Gordon, I thought you would come on this site, take the high road, and apologize for your first comment. Instead, you've made everything worse by attacking students and other posters who see through your homophobic rants. This is so revealing. First of all, get this straight - a GSA is not about SEX, it is about acceptance. These kids do not get together for SEXUAL meet-ups - they get together to talk about acceptance and to feel empowered after years of fearful self- doubt and intimidation by whom ever is not accepting of them. Get this straight. You really need to just sit and LEARN.

As for Joe Sousa, don't speak, please, just don't speak. Everything you say, makes it all much worse. Thank you.

Dan you need a radio show to explain what you wrote? As a tip for the future - How about thinking, writing, saving , rethinking, before sending? Or how about having someone else edit your work? (Just giving constructive criticism.) The students of all towns are receiving a wonderful education from this post. They are seeing adults as they truly are. Thank you to the students, staff, and school committee for doing what is right and standing behind their efforts. And THS is not allowing bullying to go on at school, bullying is everywhere and no matter what people do it is there. GSA is just taking another step in the right direction to teach people that it is not acceptable – anywhere. Great job!

My opinion is not the problem here. The problem is a group of students feel they are experiencing hateful acts toward them. I have expressed my opinion in the form of a question. Many have called my questions hate speech. They then went on to exhibit their own form of hate toward any one who thinks different than them self's. If the parents are this intolerant, than I'm sure this is where the kids get it. If the intent is to teach kids to except each other view and live together as one. We may need to start with the parents.

I am so proud, yet again for the voices of these young people who are brave enough, strong enough and wise enough to speak their truth, impact the lives of their peers and carve a path for those who will follow. The issue is not about gay, straight, black, white, yellow,sex, religion, taxes, after -school, in school or otherwise.... it is about the right to learn, the right to choose and the right to be. I for one, will be standing proudly behind these kids and offering my support along the way.

Duck and cover. Duck and cover. That is what is happening here.

Mr. Sousa now wants us all to believe that this is really about his concern for the students.

Mr. Gordon now tries to turn the tables by saying"well invite me to a meeting so I can learn." He doesn't really want to of course, but then he can say...well I tried, but they wouldn't talk with me. His position is clear and this man should not be allowed anywhere near these kids. Mr. Forrest, you owe him NOTHING!

Ms. Crist - Here, here!!

This is disterbing. We have grown men arguing over something thats GOOD for the school and the community.
Joe Sousa, you asked, "If there is so much bullying in school why is it not reported?"
Well, to answer your question to the fullest extent I can, not all bullying happens in schools.
it happens over the internet as well. Tiverton High had a guest speaker a little while ago about internet bullying. he said some pretty interesting things. but something that stuck with me is this "Before the internet, and facebook, and myspace and whatever else there is out there, kid who were being bullied in schools would be able to go home and excape it. but now, when a kid goes home they go right to the computer." Teens have killed themselves because of bullies. online, and in schools. Young teens, varying from 12 years old to 18. wether it was because they were gay or people thought they were. Our group helps teens to be themselves, and except themselves. It lets them be who they want to be without People like Gordon telling them who they should be. Or just saying that its not right to be like that.

Who ever said that bullying isnt reported? Things don't work like you would like to think in the real world. You don't just go to an adult at school, tell them you're being bullied, and the bully stops. That bully will do whatever he/she wants, and untill they are caught in the act by someone of authority, they will probably get away with it.
Unfortunatly that is just the real world. There is only so much a teacher/administrator can do for their students without being everywhere at all times throughout the school.
One thing they CAN do is to support the students that feel they are being bullied. With Cynda leading the way the GSA is doing exactly that. They meet to discuss the ways in which some of them (both gay and straight) are bullied, and ways that they cn resolve and prevent this bullying.

"It should be a place to get an education. Everything else is irrelevant. Being the best in a competitive world should be the only priority."
Are you in some alternate reality here what people think, say, and do has no effect on anyone else around them? Everything that happens in these students lives, daily, is what shapes them. These students are finding ways of preventing the more negative events from having a negative impact on their lives.
"Getting an education is the priority for the kids. Learning to be a productive citizen is the mission of the schools."
I'm sorry, what part of the students meeting after school to talk about responsible, respectful ways of resolving bullying in schools (and out) is going to hold them back? Sounds to me like there is a group of productive citizens already in the school, working together to make it a safe and comfortable environment to learn and grow.

Now, I have read all these comments for the past two maybe three days, and as a PROUD GSA member, I have something to say to you Mr. Gordon. Why does it matter if we have a GSA in THS? Does it affect you THAT much, that you have to insult people by saying this club is just for people to get "Sexed-up" as you put it? Does this club affect you so much that you have to insult the spelling and grammar of TEENS? Not everyone can type clearly Gordon. Does all of this make you happy? Does saying one line things like "Thank you for proving my point." Or, "Your spelling and grammar needs work" make your day so much better? Please, answer me that. Answer ALL of us, don't try to duck around the questions, and hide behind a cover saying "Oh, you just helped my case, thank you" It is cowardly, the GSA members posting on this site care about the school, and about the club. What they don't care for, is people who go against them, who threaten to cut school funding.

Listen, you suck at being a representive for RI. Im a student at THS and i think this school is doing great. The group isnt even durring school hours. Our teachers and staff do everything for the students here even though we have very little to work with. I mean have you seen the equipment we have to use in our gym? If we have to complete 4 years of physical education then help us out. Our pingpong tables for crying out loud are peices of plywood ontop of upsidedown trash barrels. If theres anything else you want to say about Sexual education, then talk about our health classes. the GSA isnt a group where people get together to talk about sex. because if you have a problem with that, then tend to our heath classes. ohh, but thats a different story isnt it? thats part of our education. As people have commented before, THS does great with what little we have. Great job to Cynda Martin for doing what she thinks is right and for standing up for what she believes in. Even though students might fail in education isn't because of a group like GSA. The teachers do there best to help us and we dont need people like you as our representative. What do you know about are school? You dont even go here to see what we do or what we have to go through in the halls or with peers. So dont even talk about our education, we do just fine.

Dear gordon

I am a PROUD member of the GSA that you so sadly frown upon. My classmates have pretty much summed up what I have to say only they said it much nicer then I would have. All I have to say is WHO are YOU to tell this Group that they shouldnt exist???? We do not get together and get all "sexed-up" like you so Rudely put it. that is the farthest thing from our minds. We are here to Proect students from horrible people like yourself! We are here to Help students NOT distract them. We are here to Let people know that there are people who will be there for them when others (Like you) turn against them. It is soo sad that a grown man is bulling children. Maybe you should step aside and do some more growing up??

Cynda
I think I'm safe to speak for the entire GSA that we are so PROUD of you and that we AWLAYS support you.. My friend acutally wants to thank you for having the courage to create this wonderful group you have inspired so many people. Dont let bullies like gordon get you down!!!

I think what is missing from the decision making process with some of our policy makers, is the lack of time to do proper research. Let’s look at this controversial issue from a different perspective: preparing our young generation for work.

Dan and Joe responses immediately brought to light test scores and academics. To no one’s surprise! The popular trend is to say, “We are falling behind other countries, we need to get our scores up!” But research shows concentrating on test scores is not the solution. Harvard Graduate School of Education’s recent study, “Pathways to Prosperity”, looked into why our education system, that once led the world, has fallen behind. According to the report, most of the countries that have passed us up have developed career pathways that emphasize technical education and preperation for the workforce.
With regards to groups such as the GSA, the study also shows that these successful nations have taken a more holistic approach to preparing their young. They realize that school is more than just a place to teach math and literacy, it is the environment where a young person makes the transition from adolescence to adulthood. Finding ways to make this a smooth transition increases one’s chance of being a successful productive member of the workforce. Programs like GSA, help a young person nurture social skills critical for success in the 21st century.
THS is doing their job.

I'm sure John DePetro and his listeners will lend Mr. Gordon a sympathetic ear. If he had true courage in his convictions, his original comments would still appear on the board. I'm sure he will fall back on the "gay or straight phrase" in his original comments, but the fact is he has never chosen to lash out at an any other academic, sports, or social group at THS as a "sexual meet-up group." Yet he chose to lash out at the GLA. I wonder why. And to connect funding to charter schools with the existence of this club is a complete and utter misuse of his authority. All of this is unsupportable. Reasonable people will understand this no matter the group hug that Gordon will receive on DePetro's show.

GSA groups are alive and well in other communities without any controversy. Not a PEEP!! Kids meet, support each other, and then they go home. No big deal. Some communities embrace diversity.

Why is Rep. Gordon going on and on with this and just making it worse? His remarks are highly inflammatory on WRNI. Originally, I did not think he said that he wanted to ban the group from the school, but then - on WRNI - he says they should meet at a private home and not in a building funded with taxpayer money . So what that heck does that mean??? Unbelievable.

This could be a great learning experience for him, but no. Cynda was right. Tiverton needs a group like this....but it seems that the students are not the problem, it's the grown ups who are the big baby bullies!!! How shocking in this day and age that we are going around on this issue.

If Mr. Gordon is really worried about test scores then he would be better off focusing on the needs of the school and not a group that meets after hours. Mr. Gordon might also like to do some research into real causes of low test scores. I would suggest starting by reading "the deliberate dumbing down of america" - by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, former Senior Policy Advisor in the U.S. Department of Education.

It is my opinion that this group is a good step in the right direction and more schools should follow their suit. I am sure Mr. Gordon would probably have no problem with this group if it were say a FCA group or even 4H club.

Wow! I'm amazed Gordon (with an "o") got elected. Apparently, the education system failed him too. I'm originally from the area and have been exploring Tiverton as a potential second-home community. I've been reading the patch for months as I search for property and I was a little concerned that Tiverton may not be progressive enough for me. I guess there's hope.

I wish there was a GSA at my high school 30-years ago. A lot of people I know would have had a much better high school experience, and perhaps a better future, if that had been the case. I applaud the efforts of the students, administration and the town.

I'm now going to make an offer on a property I've been watching in Tiverton. Looking forward to getting more involved int he community.

Representative Gordon, Mr. Sousa,
If your goal truely is to increase academic performance, then here is a recommendation made by the Rhode Island Department of Health and Elementary and Seconday Education. The recommendation was taken from the Rhode Island Department of Health and Elementary and Secondary Education - 2009 Youth at Risk - Sexual Orientationand and Health Risk of Rhode Island Public High Schools (released November 2011).

Research also de-monstrates that schools that focus on health and safety can dramati-cally increase academic performance. Consequently, the following recommendations are offered:

Here is the post including the recommendations. I apologize for not being attached to the original.

Research also de-monstrates that schools that focus on health and safety can dramati-cally increase academic performance. Consequently, the following recommendations are offered:

Support policies and programs promoting self-esteem and diversity
Adopt interventions addressing youth behavioral healthcare needs
Integrate LGBU issues into academics
Enforce LGBU anti-discrimination policies
Increase screening and referral of at-risk LGBU youth

Here is a prime example of what I speak . Hate speech from some one who claims to be superior.
j michael
10:22am on Thursday, March 31, 2011

Gordon was, is, and will always be an ignorant fool who will continue to represent the ignorant, repressed and the socially and intellectually inferior. I suppose they need a voice too. Problem is they're just too damned many of 'em!

We all have a right to our opinions and the way we live our lives. Acceptance goes both ways.

Joe, it wasn't necessary to copy and paste my comment, but thank you.

"At no point in time did I ever say the group should be disbanded. Only not meet or hold sexually oriented meetings at a tax-payer funded facility or building..."
Above is a portion of a comment posted by Mr. Gordon himself on WRNI. Before he comments on the grammar, syntax or punctuation of others, he should certainly check his own. Where in the original article did it state that the GSA was a "sexual" group? This group is not sexual in nature at all! It is a group of students who are building problem solving and communication skills. Their parents are some of the very taxpayers who pay for the building Mr. Gordon says should not house their meeting. In addition, they are some of the very same taxpayers he was elected to represent. Mr. Gordon, just who DO you represent? You stated you would actively work to have funding cut for the school system in the town which you were elected to represent. As a taxpayer in this town, that makes me very angry. Who do you think you are? Public school is for EVERYONE. Stating that you will push to fund charter schools instead of the schools you already have, in part, because of groups like the GSA, would imply that gay students don't attend charter schools & that bullying would not exist there. You can't honestly believe that is true!? Those who elected you should be very afraid. Ignorance is a dangerous thing! All parents and students who have read the comments here should remember them when they vote next time. We ALL have a voice!

RI Politics, thanks for links.
For anyone interested in more Dan Gordon go to :www.rifuture.org - "UPDATE:Oh the irony...Right Wing Representative business built on government contracts". Also, www.wrnipoliticsblog.wordpress.com - "GAY IN TIVERTON by Elisabeth Harrison" and "State Lawmaker faces backlash after criticizing student group".

Why isn't Dan Gordon correcting Joe Souza's posts?

I graduated from Tiverton High School in 1971. (Full disclosure: I am the brother Peter Forrest mentioned in the article.) Of course, there were no social supports for anyone contemplating their sexual orientation then. In fact, there was no positive recognition in the media, community, or larger society for those of us who wrestled with our identity. As a psychotherapist, I have seen the psychological, financial, and social damage this invisibility has wreaked on countless patients. Gay-straight alliances offer a much needed support system for teenagers undergoing a very normal developmental process, that is, coming to terms with their sexuality, whether gay, straight, bisexual or transsexual. These alliances, as their name suggests, provide support for ALL students. It helps heterosexual kids better understand their gay peers. This makes for a more respectful atmosphere for the entire school. Ultimately this is not about sex, but about civics. The founders of the Gay Straight Alliance at Tiverton High ought to be applauded for their commitment to building a stronger community.

Shawn proved my point some of us don't want to go and report it all the time because it just creates more problems, because this is true. We as students find it better to confide it to our friends for them to help us. I left THS on my own terms not because they didn't help because of the bullying because I didn't want to deal with it. A lot of kids hold a pride not to report another kid to make other kids join in, so it is not the schools fault if a kid doesn't report it. I, myself just left on my own.

Wow! Dead wives in the woodwork, support for progressive( and rightfully supported) clubs at our high school, parents in support of taking back our rights and choices and students having the courage to let their voices be heard and setting a better example than some adults I know. Tiverton just got interesting and I've been here 9 years!!!! There is hope.

How did the TCC get involved with the comments of these to folk?

I think the lesson is: even trolls can get elected. I gave up that"instead of replying to the point, I'm going to laugh about your writing" tactic in high school.

Gordon: I don't even know where Tiverton is. I came here from a link elsewhere, so saying "invite me to a meeting" doesn't finish your point. It's your choice not to care what the world thinks of you, I guess, but if you'd like an outside perspective, you're looking pretty buffoonish right now.

Trying to turn it back on everyone is funny, too. I think if you go into any situation, wilfully misunderstand what the conversation is about, and insult the people in attendance, you should reasonably expect an angry reaction. Pulling this "OHH well YOU'RE against HATE what about ALLLL this HATE I'm getting HMMMM isn't that INTERESTING" thing just doesn't apply. I think, in a different circumstance, if someone were rude to you, you would fully expect to be able to react as it deserves.

Anyway, I'm feeding the trolls, clearly. I'm looking forward to how this plays out. "Sexed-up groups"? Geez. Discussing one's sexuality doesn't mean "we're having sex now". No more than discussing one's music preference means "we're making music now".

Thank you to those who offered answers to some of my questions. I am aware of the effort to end bullying in the schools. I am also aware of the problems kids face with a lack of family or parents who don't attend to their kids needs. I haven't been out of school that long that I don't remember it. Kids in my day faced the same types of problems as kids today. If these kids tell me a support group helps them then I say you should have one. I think all kids should be welcome to join .
When I was bullied my grand father taught me boxing . He taught me two things. Not to let hateful remarks get under my skin. He said the other kids were jealous of me. That's why they picked on me to make them selves feel better. He also said if some one puts a hand on me to kick them between the legs. I would offer this advise to kids who are bullied. Stand up for your self. Courage and self esteem are traits that will help you go far in life.

"Representative" Gordon's idiotic statement aside, I have to say I'm so impressed and relieved that the majority of comments here see the need for safe zones in high schools, and an overall acceptance of people no matter their sexual orientation. I've lived in Tiverton for three years now, and I was quite certain my neighbors were backwoods, right-wing crazies.

Thank you for proving me wrong.

Mr Thibault, I do not believe Mr Sousa Is advocateing fighting, but sometimes it,s the only way to stop them, when you have no one to stand with you then you must stand by yourself, and that act in itself will help in all different ways

I am not advocating violence. It's called self defense. I got my behind kicked many times for standing up to bullies. I have the scars to prove it. If you don't stand for your self it will never end. I know this will not work for all. It worked for me so I mentioned it.

Shawn ,bullys and punks always have friends, always have, always will. The amount of kids useing guns n such now scares me, but when you have no choice but to stand up in the open by yourself and state here i am i'm ready, that makes a statement and attracts others to your cause.I believe that is what Ms Martin did. and i know how much courage and guts and dread it takes, She is a brave woman, She was the first to do this at Tiverton High and llok at the friends gay or not that she has gained, Because she took a stand true to her heart, mind, and soul.That's what this country lets you do.

Joe Sousa and Jim L, when a person wants to fight someone today, its not one on one, its one against a group. Fighting isnt the asnwer. It would only cause more problems. Plus, if your being bullied and the only way to stand up for yourself you say is to fight, well, that means the person being bullied gets in more trouble then the bully. Do you understand? So if something like this happens, its sort of like punishing a kid for standing up to a bully. Schools have zero tolerence so they say...but when it really comes down to it, punishment goes to BOTH the bullied, and the bully...so what is the point of fighting back if it will get you in trouble?

I believe that the comments that Joe Sousa has made is based upon what he has been exposed to. You can't acknowledge what you don't know.
However, many of us here know the realities of the many hurdles that our students face every day along with the need for our teachers to bring a "large toolbox" into the classroom to deal with these issues. Let's not forget why that young lady started this group. It was to promote individuality and acceptance.
Tomorrow (April 1st) is now "April Friends Day". Student representatives from the Tiverton Middle School (7th and 8th grade) will be traveling to URI to take part in the Rhode Island Third Eye Project Youth Leadership Conference. April 1st is a day that is typically known for pulling pranks and bullying people. Many students all around the nation are scared to go to school that day because bullies supposedly have the right to bully them. This is something that Third Eye has taken a stand to change, because it is better to make a friend than to hurt one and possibly lose one. "We expect to have over 500 students” says John Mattson, founder of Third Eye. There will be skits, plays, presentations, special speakers and workshops, all aligned to prevent violence and make schools and communities safer. The best part is that it’s all youth-led!
Lets congratulate our Tiverton Middle School students for being selected and wish them well. When they get to high school, I can only hope this blog will read a lot different.

The point is the bully thinks you are weak. I understand your point though.
We had gangs in my day . You may think things have change . The truth is it hasn't. What has changed is it seems there is a bigger effort to end bullying.

I really don't understand why having a GSA makes some people immediately think of sex, and gay sex at that. Sounds like the adults have filthier minds than the kids.

Having GSAs and encouraging kids and adults to be open about who they love (not just who they SLEEP WITH, yes, gay people have RELATIONSHIPS not just one-night stands) clears up this creepy secrecy, hatred, and--at the center of it all--curiosity about what it means to be gay. I find it funny that it's always the "conservative, religious" politicans who are fixated on the dirty, dirty sex we have.

Actually whatever you might feel about how Joe's grandpa taught him, you have to say it's a good thing he had someone who was willing to support and help him. (METAPHOR ALERT.)

If he had a representative say "that's why I want to cut funding for your school, because your grandpa is teaching you how to start fights, and kids shouldn't be fighting, they should learn advanced math", I wonder how he'd react to that.

Your right Spinn, I was very lucky to have two loving parents and four grand parents to help me along. Family is still the best way to raise a child.

Then it's fortunate you didn't have to live with family members who think there's something inherently wrong with you.

p.s.: don't let Gordon see that "your"

Parents love their children unconditionally. They always want what's best for them. Some times they go over board . We are all human. There for we have faults

I figured by now it was high time I post something up. Being the creator of the THS GSA I am absolutely shocked. I am shocked that a representative would say such harsh and insulting comments on a topic he clearly knowns nothing of. As I said on a different article, nowhere in our agenda is there anything about sex, or sex related topics. Not only is the topic of sex completely irrelevent to the purpose of a GSA, but that is not a topic to be discussed. Mr. Forrest, our advisor, and myself, wouldn't allow it. We are here to make a change, to make a difference, in the school and the lives of the students that go here. We're trying to get people to understand that bullying, and not just towards gays, is wrong. We need people (students) to know that if they are having a problem at school, or even at home, and they don't know where they belong, that they can come to us. We will be there to support them no matter what, because we believe in equality. No matter what your gender is, or your sexual orientation, your race, religion, anything..we are all equal. That is what this GSA, and all other GSA's are for. Not for getting "sexed-up." Not even anywhere near that. I am absolutely in shock that Gordon, and those who agree with him would make such an assumption. You claim you are adults. Why don't you try acting like one, and start learning about those things that you don't quite understand before making assumption that aren't only rude, but also insulting and hurtful to others.

I truly feel bad for the students in this group. This took a lot of courage to do and look at the elected officials who are against it. I listened to State Rep Gordan's radio interview. The only reason why he went on is because he did not expect all this to backfire on himself. This is a state rep? This man represents us? Unbelievable! I would not want this man near my child. That's my opinion. Very sad, and Mr. Sousa, you too, you should be ashamed. My friend told me about this patch and I read your initial comments and was shocked. I voted for you and will absolutely not next time or any TCC candidates! I am proud of those students for being brave!

On a second note I would like to take this time to thank all of our supporters. Your support is greatly appreciated and all your kind words leave us with high hopes!

As for all of the members of the THS GSA, you all have made such a difference in my life, and the lives of others. Your support is immense. Together we're strong enough to handle this. Thank you guys, you mean the world to me!

Cynda,

Keep the faith! You're doing a hell of a job! There will always be people in life who disagree with you. What you have done speaks volumes about your maturity and pride! It does not matter whether you are gay, straight, or stand sideways, standing up for what you believe in shows your true character and I am so proud of you!!

This is a great thing. Students in school date, have relationships and no child in school should have to hide themselves in order to appease the rest of the students. Rep Gordon is showing his bigotry--I wonder if he'll say the same things when he hears of the terrors gay and lesbian students go through everyday. I guess he though Billy Lucas, Justin Aaberg and Asher Brown deserved to die.

Keep on keeping on! You're doing a great thing by letting a GSA exist, most straight students don't understand until they see it firsthand! Great job!

S Loomis, R Thibault, C. Martin, Aelish, and others- you have clearly been taught well, you have taken a stand and beautifully articulated your position. Especially in advocating non-violence, you have shown that there is power when a group (or community) comes together around a common belief. You are shining examples of the responsible, productive, and honorable citizens that the Tiverton Schools produce. I am sure your families are very proud of you. The teachers, staff, and administrators that work with you each day are most certainly proud of you.

I am so proud of Cynda for establishing a GSA at Tiverton High School. This is linked to our continuing commitment to reinforce a safe and accepting environment here at THS. Kudos to the administration for their on--going support in these efforts. Finally, a huge "thumbs-up" to the Tiverton community and others for their support of our GSA.

Marla J. Schreffler
School Psychologist

Mr. Sousa,
I think I understood your intention when you stated " if some one puts a hand on me to kick them between the legs". You were speaking from your experience during the generation when you were growing up- which is probably not that much different than the message most people were raised with years ago. Looking back it may have helped some individuals, but it did not change the "culture" of bullying.
There is an expression: "People do the best they know how, when they know better, they should do better." We know better now. The best way to combat bullying is not through violence (sometimes referred to as physical self-defense). The best protection is an environment that supports respect, equality, acceptance, and a sense of community. Tiverton High School remains dedicated to continually improving the learning climate within the school. During the past year, there has been a targeted effort to inform students about bullying, specifically addressing cyber-bullying which has been a rising trend nationally. We utilize research-based strategies for teaching non-violent ways to address bullying behavior. A lot of research exists that help direct schools in the best practices available to achieve a positive and safe school climate. At THS we are incorporating these strategies.
I have read each post here and detect a change in the tone of your posts, indicating that you are really listening to what the young people are saying. Thank you for that!

I would just like to say that I am a senior at THS and even though I don't belong to the GSA I support it because even though I wasn't bullied I know that it goes on and I understand the need for a group were students can go and talk about their problems. I feel like Mr. Gordon and Mr. Sousa are acting like the very things this group was formed to combat, bullies. They are supporting stopping something that they don't agree with. I would like to make one final point. They are saying that groups like this are preventing use from learning to be productive citizens. What, do they think that people in the work force don't have to deal with a type of bullying and that gays don't get harassed once they leave high school. Groups like these are helping us prepare for things that are still prevalent outside of school. So get over it and please keep your closed minded opinion to yourself.

Mrs. Elwell, I thank you for that comment, I have learned in my short time on this earth, that it is better to help, than to not help at all. I am sure we all know that.

Alex,

You bring to the fore a couple of points that have occurred to me as I've received these hundreds of comments in my emailbox throughout the past couple of days:

1. Above your comment are multiple examples of (mostly anonymous) people referring to allegations from Joe's past in order to shut him up. Others are turning this into a political battle to end both men's terms of office early, without regard to anything else that they might have done. In the comments to another Patch article on this topic, somebody posted a link to Gordon's address and pictures of his house. That is bullying. What Joe and Dan have done is to express a view with which the majority disagrees, and in Dan's case, he added the intention of working within the political system to change that which he does not like. As I noted way, way up in the comments, I don't agree with his approach, but that's an objective summary of his statement.

It's very easy to attribute bad behavior (e.g., bullying) to people based on their identities or their opinions, but doing so is just asking for bullies with whom you agree to rile up a mob. Very dangerous. Which leads to:

2. How on Earth could it be in anybody's interest for "closed-minded" people to keep their opinions to themselves? Wouldn't the first step in opening their minds be for them to express their opinions?

This group is reall great! It lets students know it's okay to be who you truely are. It doesn't matter if you're gay or straight, in this group you are excepted for who you are. Bullying is a really big issue, and you might think this group is ridiculous Gordon because you yourself haven't experienced bullying. It can be a terrible thing and cause kids to harm themselves and much more. It's not about getting "sexed up." It's a support group, with nothing to do about sex. Who cares if you're gay or not? There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. I am straight myself, but just don't get why people are so cruel toward gays. Who cares? They have feelings for someone's that's the same sex, big deal. If you like somebody, you should be able to express your feelings without being scared of being made fun of or frowned upon. Gordon, I think you should really think about being in the shoes of a gay person in high school: being made fun of, scared to show their feelings, and getting nasty looks in the hallway. What if your son or daughter was gay and was being made fun of? Wouldn't you want them to have somewhere they feel safe to go to and be able to talk and express themselves? This is GSA.

Just want to add that I have also noticed that some of State Rep Gordan's posts have been deleted. why is that? I have the printed copy here and it is missing. Interesting isn't it????? They have magically disappeared!

The most disturbing aspect of this situation is not only the fact that Mr. Gordon and Mr. Sousa made these bigoted comments, but more importantly they are both elected officials. Thier behavior is inexcusable and a slap in the face to the very people they represent.

Congratulations to Cynda for having the courage and ambition to organize a GSA group at Tiverton High School. And Cynda, judging by the comments on this and other forums, you can see just how many people are supportive of you and your efforts, and how thankful they are to you.

Just keep in mind Cynda, that close minded hateful people such as Mr. Gordon and Mr. Sousa make their bigoted statements hoping that you and your fellow GSA members will be intimidated and give up your cause. For the sake of your fellow students, please do not allow the hateful views of two misinformed individuals to intimidate you Cynda.

Keep up the good work you do for the students, the school, and the residents of Tiverton. You are truly a hero Cynda.

So, I'm going to go ahead and rant here, forgive me if I use some harsh words, and some insults, but honestly, I think we're all insulted. It's just.. honestly enraging that people would be against this, because not only is it one person, one brilliant girl who's learning how to start groups like this, to help people, MILLIONS of people, and yet you're against it? And you're saying it's against educational value and formal education to do so? Times are changing, you should really be changing with them. Society is so different these days due to technology, and this is one of the most debated subjects. To be so ignorant, and to deny gay people the right to speak out, is simply the most immature thing I've ever seen, coming from board members of a school? It honestly made me laugh to myself. Stop being so oblivious and just open your eyes and realize that this could help students, children, adults, the community, the country. You have no idea what one movement could do. This is educating us, this group. This group right here, the one that you're trying to shut down? I am honestly appalled. Just absolutely horrified by that. It would be so much easier to just back this up, give it a chance, but instead you upset basically the entire town of Tiverton, and since this is being spread like WILDFIRE, possibly the state. Would it kill you to let this strive? To let this flourish into something fantastic? I rest my case, and probably won't be recognized for doing so.

I wanted to specify that when I said 'all of you' Or 'you people' or anything of that sort, I was only addressing the people that voted against this.

I also did not mean to sound like I'm simply hating on you people. But quite frankly, I hate what you're doing. I hate that you deny this group. And the only reason any of us feel any resentment toward you, as you claim we're looking to abolish, is because you're simply being ignorant, and if you're representing us, well can't you kind of see where we'd be kinda pissed off?

This is disgusting. I am shocked at the comments. There is bullying in all form. If you are gay, straight, thin, overweight, blonde, brunette, any ethnic background. I believe their should be support groups for all kinds of bullying no matter what the reason. Its the parents that are responsible for the children who bully. Not the church, not the teachers, not anyone else. So many fingers being pointed in so many directions. You say having a group to support these kids is distracting? Try being a victum of bullying and see how distracted you are. You say they are exploiting their sexuality and its the kids fault? You sir are a bully yourself. How dare you threaten to take funds away because of a group trying to support children! Its quite obvious that you have zero experience with bullying because you have zero understanding of what kids go through. I pray you never ever lose a loved one because they are ashamed of who they are.

I am ashamed for the closed minds and evil hearts...we live in a very sad and scary world.

Establishing Ignorance. Rep. Dan as a 16 year old I pity you.

oh and Mr Sousa...you promote violence instead? I lived in Bristol and was a student in high school when a mentally challenged boy was being severely bullied by an ignorant student. Day in and day out this student bullied this poor boy. One day he brought in a 22 caliber gun and shot the bully in the head. He was being torturned and threatened daily and he thought he was in danger. His fix was to kill before he was killed. Think that was a good solution?

My son's friend just lost someone very close to him to bullying. This child was 12 years old and thought that hanging himself was a much better idea than living with his situation. I cant help but think if there was a program for him he would not have done it. Try thinking about THAT.

sleep well tonight Mr. Sousa and Mr. Gordon and pray for yourselves and your loved ones.

Mr. Gordon,
this issue is not going to go away any time soon, and the GSA is helping kids ease the pain of being bullied because of sexual preference. Would you rather these kids have nowhere to turn, or have this group which seems like a second family? These kids are brave individuals, but you continue to be ignorant of their advances in making the school safer for LGBT people.

Mr. Gordon,
You (and ignorant people like you) are the reason that the GSA was formed. I support this group and everything it stands for. You, however, I do not and will not ever support. You say enough to make yourself look bad so I do not have to point out the ridiculousness of it all. I just cannot believe someone like you is in the position you are. It is embarrassing to know that you are a representative when you represent nothing but ignorance and arrogance (two things no one likes). I went to Tiverton High School, and while I am not gay I had friends that were, and I know this group would have benefited them greatly. Students cannot learn in an environment they do not feel comfortable in.
So please, and I am sure that I speak for a large number of people when saying this, stop talking. You make yourself look more incompetent every time you do.

I think that the local news should be involved in this. Many town residents don't get to see these articles or the comments based on them. I think that the rest of the town needs to be exposed to the kind of people we have representing us as a whole. I graduated from THS in 2004 and I think it's sad that with all of the other groups and clubs the school has this wasn't put together sooner. I don't really understand how Dan Gordon could threaten to cut funding to the school when programs like this don't use any of the schools money? This is obviously motivated by personal feelings and should not go unnoticed. My only hope is that we do not allow Mr. Gordon or Joe Souza to see enough time in office to allow for these cuts. How are these teens even going to get into college without extracurricular activities? With how competitive colleges are now, to cut all of these programs would be asinine and setting the students up for failure. Other High schools such as Middletown and Portsmouth have had programs like this in effect for years, and it has created a tolerance and diversity that I never saw when I was in high school, and I'm proud that someone has finally had the courage to stand up for their peers and that the faculty and administration are willing to stand behind them.

Sadly, I don't think Mr. Gordon has stepped inside a public school in quite some time. If he had, I would hope he could immediately see the need for such a group as the GSA. Kids today have to deal with far more than we did as teens. It is no longer a case of a quick fist fight after school to resolve a problem or prove your status in the school. Today, kids are dealing with cyber bullying, stalking, racial profiling, decision making about drugs use far more dangerous than years ago, individual sexuality and the list goes on. I commend the young adults who have started this group as well as the administrators and faculty at THS. They are behaving like a community should. They are making positive changes that can benefit multiple groups at the high school. I would invite anyone who is opposed to this group to walk in the shoes of a teen who has no one to turn to.

So Justin. I have to guess you are a monitor as opposed to a journalist. Given this earlier post...

Nope. Contrary to SSM-advocates' propaganda, it is possible to respect people and accept them as part of one's community without having to conclude that the only biological relationship that can create children is no longer unique.
A great deal of damage has been wrought in our culture, over the past century and a half or so, through a failure to make distinctions between tolerance and indulgence or positive change and revolution.

Propaganda?!? What can you possibly talking about? And all that other gobbley gook? Please schedule a time to talk to the GSA and tell them why they do not deserve the same rights as you. I am sure you would be stellar. Be brave and invite their parents as well. You are so learned.

All I have to say is that rep. Gordon you are an ignorant person and have no idea of what goes on in our school and what is good or bad. And second if you were to cut funding or end the group it would still go on....in fact it would be stronger and have more supporters than ever

LCRIUSA:

I'm neither a journalist nor a monitor of this site. I have a weekly column, but I don't claim to be more than an opinion writer. Anybody who's really interested in my views on same-sex marriage could do an Internet search for my name and that topic and find plenty of material written over the past decade. And of course, I'd be happy to speak with the GSA, although I have no knowledge of the agendas of their meetings, and not really being an activist, I'm not really interested in soliciting space in their agenda.

Dear Gordon,
I attend THS as a sophmore. I may not have the greatest grammar and I don't remember the exact date that Lyndon Johnson became president; but I do know that I attend a school where the teachers will help me in anyway they can. I know I will be accepted whole-heartedly no matter what. I have every right to feel safe at school, to know that there is somewhere and someone I can turn to no matter my sexual orientation. GSA only affects my education in a positive way. It is not a distraction it is a haven. GSA is just another attribute that makes Tiverton High a great place. I am not "sexed up". I am Camarin Martins.

Very true Cammi, it's not always about education. It's about learning life skills and how to deal with life on the outside world. And the GSA is just teaching us that these people are no diffrent just because they have a diffrent sexual orientation

Rep. Gordon has been very quiet since my grammar-improving suggestions :)

Having followed this page, I pick out the posts that explain the GSA. I now have a better understanding of it's function . There are also posts from people who are trying to use this as a political campaign against elected officials. I hope people can see the agenda of some who use this for that reason. They don't use their real name, and some post under more than one name.. Again to those who took the time to inform me with out the bigoted insults, Thank You

Kate no problem at all. I will continue to cut and paste those email addresses until they are either out of office or there is a serious "mea culpa" in front of the next council meeting. I see No Dough Joe II is already retracting the crap out of his SEVERAL negative posts and now all of the sudden he "understands". Nice try Joe.

If you think of change in a seasonal content- here is a seed of thought from a gardening book describing the process of going from dead dirt to a creative, beautiful garden:
"certain attitudes and behaviors have been repeated and repeated with very little change towards a more evolved way of being-soil is being turned upside down and disrupted- even worms who have been in service have to be sacrificed along the way so the dead soil can come to the surface so what is exposed can be seen, identified, broken up, sorted and cleaned up so new life can begin to grow. The challenge is to look at what is being uncovered and imagine what beautiful things can happen if given the proper amount of light and attention to rise above"
Our students are the gardeners of change-our schools are the places that plant the seeds....what an exciting step Cynda has taken towards growth.

dear Gordan
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

I am proud today to say that I was a graduate of Tiverton highschool (class of 2006). For 3 years I was editor of the THS student paper/literary magazine, and I have always been impressed with the supportive, open minded attitude that the Tiverton school department has shown with regards to it's diverse student population. A GSA is an important step torwards fully celebrating it's student body and their voice in a global community. For those who question this organizations merits, you must consider that highschool is not the be all end all, it's merely the first significant step in living in a tolerant and accepting world. Students shouldn't be ostracized because of their beliefs or feelings, and it's a really big step for a small town with very littlecultural or economic diversity to show an open mind in matters relating to celebrating it's students social differences. The majority of these kids are going to move on to larger establishments where these skills are going to be absolutely necessary to a productive and successful professional future. Point being... You don't have to like it, just accept it. This is after all a new generation and a new world.

Justin, I simply meant I was not interested enough in your opinions to google them as you indicated I could. In respect to marriage equality, it may well feel like one is being bullied when one's arguments are nonsensical to so many.

Mr. Sousa and Mr. Gordon,
Let me preface this by saying that I am a gay black man from NY, I live and work in the state I was brought up in. I came out after I went to HS because I was afraid of what people would think of me if I came out to them. I came out in college and live most of my adult life as an openly gay man. I had a knife pulled out on me because he didn't like the fact that I'm gay and like all straight people I have a sex life. This WAS an issue of sex and sexuality

However, a GSA isn't. Your prejudice tells you that if a group of gay men, lesbians and straight allies get together that there has to be a sexual component to it. It's not! You left out the fact that there are straight members in a GSA who understand what you do not: They are in school to get an education, they are people who deserve the dignity and respect they would get even if they weren't gay or lesbian, bisexual or trans-gender. They are in school and want to meet because they can draw power from one another, they can learn what to do in the event of homophobic bullying that goes on in the schools in the area that YOU represent! Gay and lesbian students face 'punishment' from people who don't like them based on their sexuality. You'd never understand because you're not gay, you will never understand how it is to be bullied because of that.

Next, how can I be educated if I dread coming to school under those conditions? How can I learn? How can I enjoy my school years? Answer that ?

Terry Purdue thank you for your comments. You sound like an intelligent caring person.
One question ,how did you hear about this story?

Email the following folks:

Gordon Fox: rep-fox@rilin.state.ri.us
Chris Cotta: cccfe@cox.net
RI GOP: contact@rigop.org

Fox and RI GOP to get Gordon out of office and Cotta to get Sousa to step down!

As it is Gordon is now essentially useless as a Rep. Rep Fox is openly gay and nothing this fool Gordon wants will get passed.

I will post this as many times as I have to happy flaggers (Sousa and Dan)

RI Politics #1 shill
What does Chris Cotta have to do with it. I bet he wont get one email except from the shill who posts as several different people.

Here's my email joesousa49@yahoo.com
Lets see how many people listen to your diatribe . Your ability to spin is laughable.
I asked a question and got responses that educated me on the mission of the GSA. I am old enough to understand things change. They are trying new approaches to end decades old problems. I applaud Cynda Martin and her peers for trying to make Tiverton's schools a better place. I saw her on the news and she is taking it well. They are in my thoughts and prayers.

I'm a gay guy in my early thirties living about eleven miles east of London, UK. I saw this item posted on an American friend's facebook page. I just wanted to say how impressed I am with Tiverton High School's attempts to prevent bullying in their school. I was bullied at school here for several years before fully coming to understand that I'm gay. Mr Gordon's and Mr Sousa's opinions are outdated and as far as I can tell do not represent the opinions of their constituents. Mr Gordon talks about concentrating on education. Well, as far as I can tell that it what the GSA organisation is all about. Education doesn't end with the three-Rs. Education is about the world we live in and the relationships we have. In times past 'fighting-back' may well have been the only option, but thankfully we've evolved a little since then. This group is not about sex, it's about people helping each other to deal with problems at their school. I would love for the GSA to be disbanded because of lack of need but ignorance is a powerful thing, and until we live in a world that understands that you cannot choose who you fall in love with it's better that kids have the opportunity to discuss these matters amongst their peers in a safe and open manner. Bullying in schools is an ongoing problem, unfortunately it comes from different people via different means. I only hope that the kids who have contributed here understand that it's getting better. Roll-on election day!

Brian Flicker people have a right to their own opinions . Since you only read select comments posted by me you are assuming you now my position. I still think kids need to stand up for them selves. If the GSA is their method than I hope it works out for them. Don't assume to know my history or total opinion on this and other subjects.

Self defense means you protect yourself from attack. I did not say hit some one who is harrassing you. If they put their hands on you ,you should use equal force to repel their attack. If you chose to just take it the bully will be back again and again. Self defense is not violence,it's self preservation. I said it worked for me when I was picked on by the older kids. It also made me feel better knowing they would leave me alone from that point forward . Every one has their own method of dealing with trouble. This is the method i was taught in my youth.

Please don't also make presumptions about me. The one thing you haven't justified throughout this whole thread is your justification for your comments based on the fact that you imply this is a "Sexual Meet-up group", as has been demonstrated by the articulate students at Tiverton High the GSA is nothing of the sort. The group doesn't aim to promote sexuality in any form. It serves only to promote understanding and hopefully act to alleviate many of the problems that gay and straight kids go through whilst at school. As for your promotion of self-defence, well that's fine if someone has the support and ability to fight back. Unfortunately the world isn't always that fortunate and witnesses to the fight might not be as unbiased as we'd hope. I'm glad that you seem to be coming round to the idea that this group is doing good work and (from your recent posts) deserves an apology from those in political office who seem to be using the fact that the group is a 'Gay-Straight Alliance' as a means to promote their own peculiar political goals. Surely the only goal that is important is to support kids in their education, a group that costs the tax-payer nothing and helps create greater understanding is something we should all support.

I'm not sure that I've ever been so proud to be from Tiverton - proud of the Tiverton Moms, and Tiverton Dads who posted, of all the students and community members, of Mr. Forest and Mr. Fezette and the countless teachers, of Mr. Rearick's article , and Representative Edwards'. Even more than students' initiative, the response to this group speaks to our town's character; with this great of a response, I don't think we have to worry about people like Rep. Gordon representing Tiverton again.

(Mr. Rearick: http://tiverton.patch.com/articles/superintendent-rearick-suggests-rep-gordon-do-his-homework-before-commenting
Rep. Edwards: http://tiverton.patch.com/articles/edwards-shocked-at-rep-gordons-comments-on-the-ths-gay-straight-alliance)

Shelby Sullivan-Bennis
THS 2005

Brian Flicker. I never referred to this club as a "Sexual Meet-up group". In my day that was the school dance. hahah I also have family members that are gay. I saw with my own eyes the harassment they took from the other kids. One still lives here and the other moved to New york. Sexual preference is embedded in us at conception. We are born with genetic traits. Research on the human brain is showing some evidence of this. I am in no way saying I hold the answer. I only asked some questions and got some good answers

Joe Sousa.
6:04am on Wednesday, March 30, 2011
How quickly they turn to name calling when they can't support an argument. I said I felt the schools are the wrong place to express ones sexual preference. The ignorance is from those who accuse me of bigotry . I never said I was against citizens living the life style they chose. I said not in the schools . It distracts from their education .

Joe,
On Wednesday, "life style they chose." Today "sexual preference is embedded in us at conception." Epiphany or self-preservation?
Bob

Uh Oh. I was checking out Dan Gordon's facebook a few hours ago. There was a link to something that looked interesting. After much searching, here it is: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbGQawBwyfG4&h=94720. Dan Gordon made chanel 10 news! His Facebook page has gone the way of his Alliance Building Contractors website. Gone.

C'mon, Joe. You can do better than that.

Epiphany or self-preservation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGQawBwyfG4

Please go to this website and watch the interview from Tiverton High School about State Rep Gordan and the Tiverton HS GA. Hopefully this will stay online here before 1 or 2 people flags it as many times before it gets taken off. Cut, paste and send to as many as possible.

The GSA is fantastic! I really do wish something like this was available to my classmates when I was at Tiverton High.
I am overwhelmed by the religion based hatred and ignorance demonstrated by these "adult" representatives. The entire Tiverton community should be angered to the point of recall.

The GSA is an extra curricular club. No more, no less. THS has many outstanding clubs and they all exist for a reason. The GSA is just one more. The Green Team, SADD, Math Team, Mock Trial Team, PEER Helping and others, each have a purpose, a goal. Seeing a group of students interacting, sharing and fulfilling a need is a reward in itself. Each and every group should be congratulated for their dedication,hard work, support and effort. So kudos to ALL the extra curricular clubs at THS!

Mr. Sousa: The thing about most bullies (and later in life those who commit sexual harassment or abuse) is that they seem to be expert in finding targets. They don't bully kids who don't care or are likely to fight back. They seem to be able to hone in on kids who can be intimidated. Learning self-defense of some kind may give a child more self-confidence which, in itself, is a bully repellent, but it comes oh-so-close to blaming the victim. It's tantamount to saying that rape victims should learn to scream louder and scratch harder; or, that people wouldn't get robbed if only they had better locks on their doors and windows. Or, instead, maybe we could work on reducing the number of willing rapists and thieves?

You also describe the act of people pretending to be straight so they can avoid harassment as being a choice in how they present themselves. Perhaps a more accurate way of stating it is that they are repressing who they really are. That is not psychologically healthy. I tried it for years (practicing mannerisms, the way I would carry my books, my speech, etc.) until a suicide attempt got me help to accept myself even though others around me mocked me and told me to my face they wished I didn't exist.

Sometimes it's actually the less overt bullying that's the most damaging. Just my two cents.

Footwork61 thank you for your thoughts. I wish you well in life.

hi, my names courtney c. personally i feel rep. Gordon should not talk unless he has been the one that was bullied. in a respectful way mr. gordon i would like to ask a question and i feel i might deserve an awnser. have you ever in your life been bullied, not picked, bullied to go to school everyday and get beat up because you were different? i myself am striaght but i have a gay best friend and we shared the same expearonces of bullying. it is wrong and we know its wrong but i will tell you when i was little i was almost hopitilised for being builed and i will tell you i had no one that cared. i feel it is wonderful for the first time to feel safe in a school i do and to take away our funding not only takes away for our education it makes us feel unsafe. so my question is have you ever really turely been bullied for being diffrent?

gloria christ so if you send 3 children to tiverton schools and by the 11th grade they cannot do basic science 2 of them can almost read and 1 1/2 of them can do math you are happy?are you serious?what future are you handing your kids? Could anyone as a parent be happy with this?Parents must help their children, but if they do it seems that as a town we set the bar way to low, aS A FATHER OF 3 KIDS WHO HAVE GONE THRY TIVERTON SCHOOLS opps sorry i find the bestv students get helped and the needy students get ignored, piss off one person at the high school and a price is paid, again this is not a guess but real life, to mant young and promising kids are ignored at the high school because they or their parents do not bend to mr reariks rules, and i do not ever recall a time when town has hired its principle to be it's superintenate as an expeerimentb it has failed, the proof is in the facts. i would thing you would want a better education for your kids, but if not just maintian the the goinging on now. i myself think i might have grandkids in the system so i'm working to change it now. it's to late for the kids there.

Ok, Mr. L....I will provide the opposite view point. I have 2 students who have gone through the Tiverton School system. The first, a very strong student, recieved her Bachelors and Masters' degrees on full scholarship at Salve. She is currently back there, on scholarship, working on her CAGS (a dgree between a Masters and a PHD). My second, has some learning challenges. She has just been accepted to Hollins Universtiy in VA (It was listed on the Princeton Review's best colleges in the Southeast list). Her weakeness are designed by nature. State testing will NEVER show her whole story or her true ability! Neither the teachers or the school can "fix" her; her brain is wired the way it is. What they have done is support her, encourage her and work with me to keep her on track. I'm willing to bet that for every negative there is a positive experience. Have there been bumps along the way; situations I wasn't happy about? Yes. But I would argue that, no matter where you go to school, that will be case. For example, I am a product of private school. My mother had issues with a teacher or two there as well. There is no perfect situation. However, Tiverton has served my children very well. I am proud of what they have both accomplished and forever grateful to the dedicated, caring, professional teachers who have helped them along the way. Mr. L. I am sorry your experience was not a good one. Mine, on the other hand, has been excellent!

Hi Cynda,

Just wanted to say that I think that what you are doing is just great, and all the best to you!!!!!! I hope my own kids have the same courage of their convictions when they are your age. And kudos to your faculty advisor too.

Dear Rep Gordon,
I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Everyone here is stating their opinion and bashing you for stating yours. I used to go to Tiverton High School and I dropped out and got my GED because I was constantly being bullied and it wasn't because of my sexual orientation. There is very scarcely any gay bashing to begin with in the school, most of the harassment is to "fat kids" or "ugly kids", it's really not that the bullying isn't reported like asked previously, it's that the punishment isn't harsh enough for people to care enough to stop. I'm not against gay people in the slightest, I just don't feel like there is a need for a gigantic group with a controversy attached to it because a few people who have an alternate lifestyle want to find a place to converge. To all the time I've seen that sex wasn't mentioned I have heard from a reliable source who was at the meeting that this quote was mentioned at said meeting "I can't imagine kissing a guy never mind sleeping with one", if she (Cynda) said it how can she say it's not allowed? The group seems more like a straight bashing alliance than a gay straight alliance. I think if the school is going to make a group that is a haven to singled out bully victims it should be a group focussed on bullying it'self not one minority that the only time slurs are commonly thrown around is when a bunch of guys are together hanging out.

Katelyn: if you read the comments in order here, you'd see the reaction to the group started in a very supportive way, and there wasn't "a controversy attached to it" until an elected representative talked about removing school funding based on his own mistaken understanding of what the group was about.

I don't think having such a group precludes any other anti-bullying group in the school. In fact I think people are using the anti-bullying idea a little too easily because it's trendy at the moment -- the group's more about helping different people get an understanding of what other people are like, and what's wrong with that?

And I would be very surprised if the discussion of guys kissing guys was /not/ brought up in such a group. That kind of seems like the point. I think the stronger point is that this is not a group where kids go to get "sexed-up" as Rep. Gordon had said.

I think everyone is twisting his words, he said "And this is why if I have anything to say about it", that is not a threat, a threat would be "Get rid of the group or I will", There is nothing wrong with it I just don't feel like there should be a giant controversy about it. Bullying is trendy? Being gay is trendy, so many people in high schools are bi curious and don't know there true sexual identity, then there are people who are telling people "Well, hey, you might be gay!" and then they actually believe it and convince themselves for years that they actually are gay, being bullied isn't the trend, this is.

No, I mean, the whole "anti-bullying" idea is trendy. It's a big deal right now, and in fact I think it's clouding this issue. I don't think the GSA is an anti-bullying effort, I think it's just about helping people understand each other, which again I don't see a problem with.

It's not a threat if it comes from some random commenter on the internet. It's a threat if it comes from someone who has the power to affect school funding.

And his words weren't twisted, they were just dumb. He said the GSA is a "sexual meet-up group" where kids can get "sexed-up". That's clearly said by someone who thinks that being homosexual is primarily about having sex.

Again: he created the "giant controversy". People were pretty supportive up to that point.

Gay-Straight Alliances (GSAs) in public schools
The Federal Equal Access Act
Student-led clubs in public high schools

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Overview of the law:
Most student-led, special interest, non-curriculum clubs must be allowed to organize in most U.S. high schools. Their right to assemble is usually protected under a federal law -- the Equal Access Act, (20 U.S.C. §§ 4071-74) 1

The law was originally heavily promoted by conservative Christian groups to allow students to organize religious clubs in public secondary schools. These are typically conservative Christian Bible study, fellowship and prayer clubs. One writer estimated that the number of Christian Bible clubs in high schools rose from 100 in 1980 to 15,000 by 1995. 5 The Equal Access Act was a major contributor to this increase.

The Act affects much more than Christian clubs. Ironically, over opposition from the same conservative Christian groups that sponsored the law, the same legislation is now being used to support the right of students to organize gay/lesbian/bisexual support groups in those same high schools. The Act requires most schools to permit clubs of all religions, and none. Included might be groups which deal with Atheism, Goth culture, Heavy Metal music, Satanism, Wicca, other Neopagan religion, etc. School districts can opt out of the Act by not allowing any non-curriculum clubs.

You cannot say the word "Easter Bunny " in Tiverton schools. But we need a "GSA."

Cynda,

This is your cousin, John Martin, and I am IMMENSELY proud of you! I can only imagine what might life might have been if I'd've come out at your age instead of living inauthenticity for 35 of my years here. You hold on to the fact that this is YOUR time here, you only get ONE chance at it, and in the end you will have to answer to NONE of the haters. I'm proud of you for stepping "out" into your authentic life so young! Carry on, my friend.

John

This is all fascinating, and I recognize it is nearly a year after the fact. However, in the past month my path has crossed with Dan Gordon, and it's noteworthy to reflect on what was learned about Mr. Gordon after this controversy, i.e., being booted out of his own caucus for bullying behavior, followed by the revelation of his extensive criminal record, the jail time he served for assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, his violence toward women, skipping out on pending charges, and lying about his military record. All of that is evident in his bullying, aggressive posts here, especially toward high school adolescents. I am an attorney who represents children with special needs, and I assume many of you are are aware that dogmatic, belittling homophobia has been scientifically linked to repressed homosexuality (see Roy Cohn). Reading between the lines, and considering the details of Mr. Gordon's life, perhaps he is merely envious that a GSA was not available to him when he was a troubled teenager. Cynda and other students who posted here are in college now; the legacy they left, however, is something for which Tiverton -- the community and the high school with its supportive staff -- should be very proud. As for Mr. Sousa: I don't know what track his political career has followed, but for a public school representative to advocate violence to combat violence merely confirms that his time has come and, thankfully, gone. I wish the community of Tiverton well.