Joe you really think this is the new age - stealing signs, illegal one's posted everywhere, robocalls, unsolicited mailing - tons of $$$$$$ being spent. Not sure I agree that this is going to lead to better times just bitter division.

Deb, aka tiverton red, says dave nelson spotted tearing down a campaign poster this am. It's true! He was with the easter bunny and louise durfee, in fact louise was riding ON the easter bunny: who knew he could carry so much? And jump so high? And they were with a fat guy in a red suit...could have been associated with the school committee, or have been santa, i didn't get a good look.
Somehow that statement seems.....insincere (i.e., a lie), somehow. FF

Sorry, Fred, but Deb has about 1 million times the credibility of Fred Floon--or Dave Nelson for that matter. Mr. Nelson likes to present himself as the Tax Easter Bunny, giving away all these wonderful tax breaks. Watch out when people find their eggs are actually hollow, and he's been hoarding all the money for himself & TCC. Hey, Fred, keep up this foolishness. It's fun!

KSilvia, for the average citizen it is a great day. Yes a new age where all can participate conveniently, and with out fear of retribution . The few who take things to extremes are seen for what they are.

Joe,

It was more that just a few that took it too the extreme with misstatements and lies (yes JIm L that is what they were). But I do agree with everyone being able to participate and I am happy about that.

Agree Brian, Ms. Pallasch along with the other three Committee members who care about my kids have much more creditably than any of the TCC'ers will ever have.

Fred funny thing about daylight - lots of people on their way to work can actually SEE what you are doing.

Point is, it's a fairy tale, especially coming from tiverton red like it did, the day before the vote. At least the other side seems to have some respect for the voter's intelligence.

No fairy tale Fred - or are you calling the THREE residents who all saw him and took the license plate lairs?

Yes, Fred, nothing says "respect for the voters" like raising thousands of dollars in anonymous out-of-town contributions to pay for endless robocalls & mailers that provide zero information but promise the world. TCC looks at voters as ignorant sheep who can be bought. I actually respect the people of Tiverton enough to believe they can't, and will look at the facts.

Jim, yes, illegal is illegal, but this is the only place in RI the political signs have been taken down. They should be left for a few days - not hurting anyone.

And the flyers were Ruth?

And i couldn't agree more dad, to much bitterness on bothside by known and unknown posters, holding to your feeling and thoughts are fine, but to call names and use terms like lair lies, etc has no place in a public forum unless your gonna put your name on it I have never seen YOU do so and you have shown a great deal of knowledge on moving this town forward, not brown nosing you because we both know on other issue we don't agree, but on the business end of town development we do
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Jim, that sounds nice, but what you don't get is that people feel like their kids, families, and homes are being attacked. That's a hard thing to stomach and a hard thing to forget especially when the former Marines are doing the attacking. This is more than just politics and ideology.

Jim L, love what you just wrote!!!

watch out brian gone polite again!

I didn't realize that being upset about no books and no paper for education, is being unsympathetic to kids, show you how uninformed and short sighted i am, i think i read just about any and all posted on here, bake sales, cops, recipes, the indy park, and to me it all ties together, thats just me tho

Fred: Still waiting for you to say one thing based in fact or reason. I guess we might have to wait a bit longer for Floon-a-Palooza.
The simple fact is that BOTH budgets increase taxes. But to save $1.39 week, Option 2 defunds the School Dept & bankrupts the town's General Fund. But if it wins tomorrow, at least you'll have an extra $1.39 each week. Then again, last time I checked, you couldn't even get a cup of coffee for that amount. Maybe you can splurge on some penny candy?

Brian since you keep bringing up $1.39 a week. I would like to remind everyone that small figure amounts to over $1,800 out of my pocket in the next 25 years and that only accounts for this years $1.39 increase, while we have an ex Chief of Police taking over $100,000 in his very generous retirement plan while getting another full time $100,000+ salary in Swansea. Just seems to me the $1.39's year after year have afforded some to live very comfortably and have not been spent wisely.

Great logic, Bob. So lets remedy the situation by taking money allocated for our children and reallocate it to the responsible parties who oversee the municipal budget with its bloated 4.6% increase. TCC's hypocrisy continues to astound.

BD there is no hypocrisy here, I simply want to let everyone know what $1.39 ++ adds up to. Of course that $1.39 that hit me 25 years ago will cost me over $3,600 as a taxpaying Tivertonian, and MOST years it was MUCH MUCH more than $1.39. I really don't think you want me to do the math as it will discourage many people from voting for not only the smallest budget but anything but a level budget. If people simply take a calculator and see what these $1.39 increases year after year cost them they will be shocked. Do the math voters and take a good look at the fluff. No one yet has addressed 20% for insurance gravy train, nope lets cut extracurricular activities instead and try to scare everyone into voting for our budget, why not it worked in the past. I want to keep the extracurricular activities, lets see who is really on the side of the students or could it be self interest. Wake up voters!!!

Bob: An $1800 increase spread over 25 years is not exactly exhorbitant, assuming that's what will happen (and nobody has a clue what will come over 25 years). The bottom line is that you get what you pay for. Your home expenditures will also increase over 25 years, and I'll bet by a much higher percentage. Given the increases in the price of fuel & health insurance alone, it's remarkable that the town/school budget could maintain services at such a modest increase. Again, BOTH budgets raise taxes. The judgment call is whether it's worth that extra $1.39 to empty the General Fund & force the closure of a school or end to extracurriculars. That's the decision voters have to make today.

Yes, thank God TCC is here: we have not had a single stolen FTM since the FTR passed!

Yes, the "stolen FTM" that never happened. You probably weren't even there, but I'm sure they yell that ghost story around the campfire at those TCC retreats. Sorry to break it to you, but like most ghost stories it's a myth. All that happened is that the side that was outvoted whined, created conspiracy theories to explain it, and then filed a lawsuit to reverse the voters' decision (and lost). Period. Thanks for playing, Fred.

Nope, I was there, heard louise's "close enough for government work" comment, saw the firemen from down island vote in our election, and wondered how more votes were counted than there were people in the room...The only fantasy are the lies you perpetuate in telling these falsehoods.
I was also there two years ago when dandy don jammed his TC budget down the taxpayers' throats from the podium. Note that he was the top vote getter in 2008, and based on his tax raising performance the taxpayers tossed him in 2010, along with Miz durfee.
I know you union/demoskunks are hard headed, but are you starting to get it? Taxes matter, and after ten years of gratutitious, unnecessary tax increases to line the pockets of your union pals, no one wants ANY tax increase, much less 1.1 or 2.6.
You demos could have kept fleecing the taxpayers forever, at 7% per year, but you got greedy and arrogant; you forgot who pays the bills, and the 14% tax increase from 2008 was the last straw and a cosmic overreach: YOU created TCC and now we're arguing over 1.1 or 2.6, and the bleating we hear from you union types is: "it's all about the childrend." It ain't, it wasn't then, it's not now.
Now TCC runs the town council and YOUR town, the FTM is an unpleasant memory, and the school committee is about to be humbled...where's your red shirt now?
Maybe you could hire the school auditorium, call all the union skunks together, and you could make ugly faces at each other, just like the FTM?

Freddie, Louise is gone, Bollin is gone. I helped to vote them out at the last election. We're not talking about 14%, or 2008, or the FTM. All of those things are gone too. The only people who care about those things are people like you who see the Nelson proposal as revenge on the schools. Get over it. The budget committee proposal is fair and reasonable. And the TCC is the group that's making it all about the kids by threatening their education. I have kids in the schools but I have also been steadily asking why the TCC/Nelson proposal triples municipal spending as compared to the budget committee.

Fred: You've got nothing but your conspiracy theories and straw men you like to blame for all your problems. That's your right. Whatever the result tonight, there are many in Tiverton who actually want to see the town & schools improve, to get back to the more civil discourse and policy before TCC interjected itself into town. You can keep parroting talking points that have been proven false, and keep devising new ways to divide and destroy our town, to con people into voting against their best interests & in favor of yours. But in a town of over 12,000 voters, and less than half expected to vote today, there are a huge number of currently inactive voters. If TCC should prevail & the reality of their budget plan begins to affect people's lives, many in that majority won't remain inactive in November.

You're just so incredibly rude.

You mean FTR, not FTM. And although people SHOULD vote for Budget 1, I'm guessing you meant #2. Must be hard to type when you're foaming at the mouth. We haven't even completed the first FTR process and in your best George W Bush style, you're ready to hang the "mission accomplished" banner. Even those who pushed this plan know it's flawed. Unless it's fixed, it's a disaster waiting to happen, just as I said the FTM was in 2004--it took four years for me to be proven right. Keep harping on about signs (I have NEVER bought or posted a sign besides the one on my lawn--period). Also, if you knew ONE thing about which you speak, you'd know I was the Town Councilor who wrote the unanimous condemnation of NEA for the threat to picket the SC's workplaces, & supporting the SC in negotiations. Jane, remember the old adage: better to stay quiet & let people think you're a fool than speak and confirm it.

Nancy, regarding taking signs down I present the following:
"Gerry,
Let's get two things perfectly straight. First, I followed protocol and got the blessing from a supervisor at National Grid to remove all signage from the poles as they were illegally placed there to begin with, which is why I removed one right in front of the officer who was less than twenty feet from me when I ripped it down. And secondly, if you and your cronies want to keep destroying and removing TCC signs that are not where they should be, then I will respond in kind. Also, since the Town Administrtor had already issued an order to the building official to remove the illegally placed prior to my removing them, there is no ticket, no charge and no issue. And with that being said, the peoples' voice will be heard TODAY- loud and clear !!!!!!" This quote is from Jim O'Dell another known supporter of the TCC. He admits to taking down signs that support Option #1. Late Friday afternoon, I saw people placing signs up on Main Road. So much for placing signs up during the middle of the night.

Once again, Nancy has been proven to be liar.

JD/nancy dreggs- won't you ever learn? You complained last time when 1 of your lousy signs disappeared so now you, lord nelson and jim the goon are out stealing #1 signs off peoples lawns.The only loser in town is the children who go to our public schools. You and the rest of the TCC school haters who either don't have children oor have children who have grown, cannot see beyond your own pocket book. Who paid for the schools when your kids were growing up or when you grew up? The community, that's who. You and the few 1%ers are nothing more than self absorbed selfish people. No matter what the outcome today, Tiverton remains divided because of you and the TCC and because of that we all lose. Now why don't grab your broom and fly on out of here..

And just for the record, nancy dreggs- the loser is you. Take a big bite of that bitter sandwich, Ms Doe.

Sorry, Tiv D, that's a drop in the bucket compared to 10% and 7% increases in one year!! (and each increase is on a larger amount the next year! - compounded! which by the way means that any AVERAGE $72./per year is actually MORE than that amount the next year - or $1000./year as the case may be, as an ex: my taxes went from $3600 to $7000 in 10 years, others had worse increases). In 10 years, it went from around $19,000,000.00 to $27,000,000.00 for the schools who didn't even maintain their buildings... and didn't plan for septic maintenance, much less spending to drive innovative teaching methods - I haven't heard a word on this - all I hear is athletics, althletics - which I LOVE! as I'm a baseball fanatic, do water sports, etc., but you also have to make it a good place to learn to be a success in the world - in a fun, successful and not boring way. The kids deserve that more than anything else!
An as I've said, everyone who tried before, had their chance, and it didn't work... no fiscal responsibility at all - what are you teaching kids who need to learn this skill?!

So why hasn't the TCC/TC done anything to alleviate the financial woes of people who are on fixed incomes or on the verge of foreclosure? Why didn't the TCC/TC actually level fund the budget by cutting the pork from the municipal side? All I have heard is schools, schools, schools. Why aren't you criticizing the municipal spending? What will happen when families with children shun Tiverton becuase of its underfunded schools? Why aren't you considering the long-term consequences of this vote?

Jim L, its good see that you are back writing your own posts.

I just went to vote as well Jim. Thank you for always being respectful to me as well.

I just finished voting too. Now home to throw back a few 'gansetts. If number 1 passes I will have less beer money, but my kids will benefit.

Great post and one of the reasons the FTR prevailed by better than 2 to 1 in November. The winner later tonight will not be proposal 1 or 2, it will be the democratic process, to be able to vote you conscience in the privacy of a voting booth without fear of retribution either to your or your school children.

Mr. Medeiros, the sky has still not fallen as you hysterically predicted it would. BTW Brian there is still time to vote to reduce your taxes almost 30 cents more than the Budget Committee. Vote proposal #2. Tomorrow we will talk about your credibility which will include a review of the 2008 open meeting law violation you had a major hand in causing.

Of course none of us have nothing better to do. That's why we post here. Now excuse me while I do a major virtual eye roll.

Laura, that was after your group stole many of the red, white and blue signs (we had 50 signs stolen) - please do not act as if you are holier than thou on this. I believe they were told to take them off of the poles as they are owned by the electric company.

RR, you just don't get it, do you? The TCC lost after they pulled out all the stops. Do you want to come over to my house and pick up the cards they mailed or take back the numerous robo calls?. The thousands of dollars spent,the signs all over town and state property didn't help, did they RR? But they'd be OK if the TCC had gotten the prize tonight. BUT, since they didn't win, we will now have to endure your and the other 10 TCC members complain endlessly about the stolen FTR. When will you get it?
And for the record RR, the only person actually caught removing signs was from the TCC. So think about that before you waste more of our time with your complaining posts.